On Virginia Tech

I wasn’t going to post on the subject, but my young friend Cara has a few wise words that I really had to pass along for others to see. Please take 90 seconds and go read No Window Jumping.

Much longer but also well worth the time: Doug Phillips’ post On The Horror At Virginia Tech, along with readers’ comments that he received in response.

Don’t go to these links expecting to read soft words of sorrow and sympathy. We all mourn the victims and the wickedness that was done, but standing about making sad eyes at one another won’t do a bit of good.

Our nation has so much to repent for…

see a follow-up post here, and a third here.

As it is, I rejoice, not because you were grieved, but because you were grieved into repenting. For you felt a godly grief, so that you suffered no loss through us.
For godly grief produces a repentance that leads to salvation without regret, whereas worldly grief produces death.

2 Corinthians 7:9-10

Comments

  1. Martha A. says:

    When I saw and heard about it, I thought, “the poor parents!” i was not thinking of the parents of the childen that died though, but of the man who shot them, his parents. Can you imagine knowing your son killed 32 people and his face is being shown all over the US, people are hating him. It made me think to pray for his parents, because no matter what they believe, they have to be suffering.

  2. Christine says:

    I am amazed by the heroic professor, who laid his life down for others! He is one of the few heroes, whom I have heard about in this tragedy.

  3. Most of the time we cannot see how God can use a given situation for His glory but we can trust that He is able. That is how I can pray that God will be glorifed through even a tragic event.

    I think I agree with everything Doug said except for the very last line. “Let us mourn, love, and encourage, and let us give God the glory in everything — even death.” I’m not sure we are called to give God the glory in everything, meaning giving Him the credit for the deed, but rather that we seek that God is glorified. Those are two different things. I think that perhaps a better thing would be to say …and let us pray that God is glorified in everything – even death.

    I’m still thinking on this…

  4. HomemakerAng says:

    Well, he just told the family and America by posting this on his blog by saying this is God’s judgement… If I were not a christian, I definately would not want to be one after reading that as one of the parents losing a loved one. He did say it is God’s judgement on people one reason was sending kids to government schools though. He states, “Second, we must acknowledge that the rise of community violence is a judgment of the Lord. Our nation has broken covenant with the God of our fathers. We have forsaken the law of God and have worshipped before false idols. We have sacrificed our children, not only spiritually and intellectually to the high priests of a new secular religion in our government schools”… That sounds like they deserve it to me…

  5. I didn’t see anywhere in the article that said it was the fault of the parents that there children were killed, or that they deserved it. The article stated that God said things like increasing violence and tragedies will happen to nations that need to repent.
    Nowhere is it suggested to tell a family member of the victim that they deserve it. Scripture describes in detail what it will be like for nations heading in the direction we are. Christians will be affected as well as non-christians, scripture is also very clear as to why it happens.
    There are great examples of this in stories throughout the bible.

    Carey

  6. HomemakerAng says:

    The church I am referring to is that Baptist church that stalks soldiers funerals protesting the reason they died is because of God’s judgement on America because of our sin and they deserved to die…

  7. HomemakerAng says:

    You seem to agree with DP from VF although you didn’t say that but I am assuming you do, (forgive me please if I am wrong) Anyways you said, “We all mourn the victims and the wickedness that was done”. DP states “we must acknowledge that the rise of community violence is a judgment of the Lord” so what I am asking is do you think the wickedness is from God then? Because that would make God wicked… DP also states, “Let us mourn, love, and encourage” I highly doubt that telling a parent of a dead child right now that this was God’s judgement against them would be in any way encouraging??? I highly doubt we should give God the glory for these killings? That is sickening but that is exactly what He said in his statement, “and let us give God the glory in everything — even death”.

    If that is the case do we give God the glory in abortion, remember he said give God the glory in all things! It makes no sense!

    Yes we deserve death and each breath is a gift but would you guys all agree to these same findings if, God forbid, you or I found our children dead at a homeschooling conference they were singing at or during our family worship service and that it was GOD that did this? I don’t think so. These things can happen anywhere, even in forsaken Walmart, don’t think it couldn’t happen to any of us, it happens to believers too, I hope you do not think that these children could possibly never be believers because they attended a public university, remember they too were created in His image…

    I am really on the same page with all of you, (I am rethinking this)a homeschool mom, believer, raising our family in the Lord as called,just like you guys, but I know for a fact that God did not kill these children, satan had his way here and won.

    Please don’t tell me you agree with the Baptist church that stalks soldiers funerals and protest the reason they are dead is God’s judgement on them because of the sin of this world… They died for their country so we can live free and all that goes with that, God did not take their life, the enemy did for their glory. If you believe they died because of God’s judgement then it would really change why the soldiers died in the VF film The League of Greatful Sons, wouldn’t it. They were killed by violence of war so then if we go with DP statements then God killed these soldiers because he was judging them.

    You guys are starting to sound a little to much like that church to me… I email VF with no replies, kind of untouchable at times, I hope you are open to posting this and considering that possibly we should rethink some of these statements… Humbly in Christ

  8. Kim,
    Thanks for the link to that great post. It was weel worth the 90 seconds it took to read!

    p.s. There’s an extra http// in the link’s URL, but I still found it! :-)

    Cindee

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