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		<title>By: David Bazley</title>
		<link>http://inashoe.com/2008/01/what-makes-a-conservative/#comment-13150</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bazley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 06:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Perry C:  Great insight on your part.  Especially where you advise us that it is, ultimately, God the LORD who makes us safe, as David in the Psalms exulted in Him who watches over us.  To wit:

&quot;Unless the LORD watches over the city, the watchmen waketh but in vain...&quot;   

I&#039;ve been a Ron Paul fan since about 1992, when I began reading his economic free market writings.  I suspected he was a devoted Christian from his cause / effect &amp; reap / sow &amp; respect for the Law of God. (not to mention the Constitution)  

But to grasp Dr. Paul, folks must S - L -O - W down, turn off the &#039;microwave mentality&#039;, read, ponder &amp; think deeply.  Just like studying the Scriptures.  Generally, we can&#039;t go deep quickly.  

One thing I&#039;ve noted: The other candidates supporters switch around quite easily - less so now the field has narrowed, of course.  

But Dr. Paul&#039;s depth helps folks &#039;stick&#039; to him - once you&#039;ve been intellectually &amp; ehtically fired up by him, nothing shallower will suffice.  

Perry, as you did, I strongly urge others to visit the site www.KnowBeforeYouVote.com - it&#039;s a very complete survey of the most important issues, of all the candidates &amp; most imortantly, the issues / questions it asks are of serious substance.  

Yes, Ron Paul fans (I suspect) wrote that site.  Even so, it&#039;s not pandering or shallow - it perks up our citizenship meter just reading the issues covered.

But take the &#039;worldview&#039; test: read those positions they list and ask yourself if you can live with a candidate that is on the wrong side even a few of them - the media &#039;darlings&#039; are all on the wrong side of most every issue. 

McCain scores same as Hillary, Romney &amp; Hucabee almost as bad.

Our nation is at a crossroads; we must devote ourselves to the hard work of liberty.  For Christians who have Christ working in them, this should be a natural drive; our challenge is to comprehend that Christ sits now, on the throne (as Perry quoted in Psalm 2) and in Psalm 110:1 &quot;....henceforth waiting till all his enemies are made a footstool for his feet.&quot;   

With these assurances, we have every expectation that God will meet us in our duty, causing Kings (senators, presidents, reps) to either &#039;serve him with Fear&#039;  or be (in time) destroyed by His wrath.  

With this assurance, we need not &#039;vote for the lesser of two evils&#039;, but rather choose the Greater Good, despite appearances.

Daniel 4 &quot;The most high God rules in the army of heaven &amp; amongst all the inhabitants of the earth, and there is none that can stay his hand, or say unto Him, what doest Thou.&quot;

We are also joining up as Precinct Leaders to help Dr. Paul win &amp; also to teach poltical science &amp; biblical statesmanship to our 13 year old daughter &amp; 12 year old son.  

Thanks Kim &amp; Perry for hosting this - y&#039;all are great,

David B.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Perry C:  Great insight on your part.  Especially where you advise us that it is, ultimately, God the LORD who makes us safe, as David in the Psalms exulted in Him who watches over us.  To wit:</p>
<p>&#8220;Unless the LORD watches over the city, the watchmen waketh but in vain&#8230;&#8221;   </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a Ron Paul fan since about 1992, when I began reading his economic free market writings.  I suspected he was a devoted Christian from his cause / effect &amp; reap / sow &amp; respect for the Law of God. (not to mention the Constitution)  </p>
<p>But to grasp Dr. Paul, folks must S &#8211; L -O &#8211; W down, turn off the &#8216;microwave mentality&#8217;, read, ponder &amp; think deeply.  Just like studying the Scriptures.  Generally, we can&#8217;t go deep quickly.  </p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;ve noted: The other candidates supporters switch around quite easily &#8211; less so now the field has narrowed, of course.  </p>
<p>But Dr. Paul&#8217;s depth helps folks &#8216;stick&#8217; to him &#8211; once you&#8217;ve been intellectually &amp; ehtically fired up by him, nothing shallower will suffice.  </p>
<p>Perry, as you did, I strongly urge others to visit the site <a href="http://www.KnowBeforeYouVote.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.KnowBeforeYouVote.com</a> &#8211; it&#8217;s a very complete survey of the most important issues, of all the candidates &amp; most imortantly, the issues / questions it asks are of serious substance.  </p>
<p>Yes, Ron Paul fans (I suspect) wrote that site.  Even so, it&#8217;s not pandering or shallow &#8211; it perks up our citizenship meter just reading the issues covered.</p>
<p>But take the &#8216;worldview&#8217; test: read those positions they list and ask yourself if you can live with a candidate that is on the wrong side even a few of them &#8211; the media &#8216;darlings&#8217; are all on the wrong side of most every issue. </p>
<p>McCain scores same as Hillary, Romney &amp; Hucabee almost as bad.</p>
<p>Our nation is at a crossroads; we must devote ourselves to the hard work of liberty.  For Christians who have Christ working in them, this should be a natural drive; our challenge is to comprehend that Christ sits now, on the throne (as Perry quoted in Psalm 2) and in Psalm 110:1 &#8220;&#8230;.henceforth waiting till all his enemies are made a footstool for his feet.&#8221;   </p>
<p>With these assurances, we have every expectation that God will meet us in our duty, causing Kings (senators, presidents, reps) to either &#8216;serve him with Fear&#8217;  or be (in time) destroyed by His wrath.  </p>
<p>With this assurance, we need not &#8216;vote for the lesser of two evils&#8217;, but rather choose the Greater Good, despite appearances.</p>
<p>Daniel 4 &#8220;The most high God rules in the army of heaven &amp; amongst all the inhabitants of the earth, and there is none that can stay his hand, or say unto Him, what doest Thou.&#8221;</p>
<p>We are also joining up as Precinct Leaders to help Dr. Paul win &amp; also to teach poltical science &amp; biblical statesmanship to our 13 year old daughter &amp; 12 year old son.  </p>
<p>Thanks Kim &amp; Perry for hosting this &#8211; y&#8217;all are great,</p>
<p>David B.<br />
Nacogdoches, TX</p>
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		<title>By: Perry C.</title>
		<link>http://inashoe.com/2008/01/what-makes-a-conservative/#comment-13133</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BJK said &quot;I liked a lot that Paul had to say until he started to talk about our military. We have been over seas now for about 5 years. And we have not had anything happen on our own soil!!&quot; 

There is a threat and our military is keeping us safe by bring the battle to their area. Not just Iraq but having soldiers all over the world helps&quot;

King David said 

&quot;10 Now therefore, be wise, O kings;
         Be instructed, you judges of the earth.
 11 Serve the LORD with fear,
         And rejoice with trembling.
 12 Kiss the Son,[b] lest He[c] be angry,
         And you perish in the way,
         When His wrath is kindled but a little.
         Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him.&quot;

and again in Psalm 20

 7 Some trust in chariots, and some in horses;
         But we will remember the name of the LORD our God.
 8 They have bowed down and fallen;
         But we have risen and stand upright.
         
 9 Save, LORD!
         May the King answer us when we call.

I remember others like Hezekiah, Ester, and Gideon who did not rely on the strength of their hands for safety. 

With all due respect to our servicemen they are being led by a foreign policy that is shaped by expansionists and globalists we need to observe our written covenants and constitutions first and then a humble (before the Lord) foreign policy would do wonders for our safety and our children&#039;s future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BJK said &#8220;I liked a lot that Paul had to say until he started to talk about our military. We have been over seas now for about 5 years. And we have not had anything happen on our own soil!!&#8221; </p>
<p>There is a threat and our military is keeping us safe by bring the battle to their area. Not just Iraq but having soldiers all over the world helps&#8221;</p>
<p>King David said </p>
<p>&#8220;10 Now therefore, be wise, O kings;<br />
         Be instructed, you judges of the earth.<br />
 11 Serve the LORD with fear,<br />
         And rejoice with trembling.<br />
 12 Kiss the Son,[b] lest He[c] be angry,<br />
         And you perish in the way,<br />
         When His wrath is kindled but a little.<br />
         Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him.&#8221;</p>
<p>and again in Psalm 20</p>
<p> 7 Some trust in chariots, and some in horses;<br />
         But we will remember the name of the LORD our God.<br />
 8 They have bowed down and fallen;<br />
         But we have risen and stand upright.</p>
<p> 9 Save, LORD!<br />
         May the King answer us when we call.</p>
<p>I remember others like Hezekiah, Ester, and Gideon who did not rely on the strength of their hands for safety. </p>
<p>With all due respect to our servicemen they are being led by a foreign policy that is shaped by expansionists and globalists we need to observe our written covenants and constitutions first and then a humble (before the Lord) foreign policy would do wonders for our safety and our children&#8217;s future.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry C.</title>
		<link>http://inashoe.com/2008/01/what-makes-a-conservative/#comment-13132</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think David Bazley hit the nail on the head when he said 

&quot;One could claim that by simply accepting yesterdays creeping Socialism, and shouting ‘Stop’, that one is a ‘Conservative’, ie one would be resisting the next liberal innovation towards the pit of perdition, but ceeding their prior gains &amp; implicitly accepting their victories.&quot;

This is exactly why this year&#039;s conservative is more liberal than the liberals were in the 60&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think David Bazley hit the nail on the head when he said </p>
<p>&#8220;One could claim that by simply accepting yesterdays creeping Socialism, and shouting ‘Stop’, that one is a ‘Conservative’, ie one would be resisting the next liberal innovation towards the pit of perdition, but ceeding their prior gains &#038; implicitly accepting their victories.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is exactly why this year&#8217;s conservative is more liberal than the liberals were in the 60&#8242;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry C.</title>
		<link>http://inashoe.com/2008/01/what-makes-a-conservative/#comment-13131</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily said &quot;Although I will agree that all of Huckabee’s domestic policies don’t fall in the 100% conservative category, the fact is that he is the only reasonably viable candidate who is pro-life and pro-family. I can’t in good conscience vote for someone who is not, but I also can’t vote for someone who has no chance to win - to me that is the same as voting for Hillary Clinton.

I think it would be far better to get Huckabee in office, even with his somewhat less conservative policies, than to have a 100% liberal democrat in office.&quot;

Emily and any other person who is struggling with the viability question I challenge you to read the following article.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north536.html

It was Stonewall Jackson who said &quot;“Duty is ours; consequences are God&#039;s.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily said &#8220;Although I will agree that all of Huckabee’s domestic policies don’t fall in the 100% conservative category, the fact is that he is the only reasonably viable candidate who is pro-life and pro-family. I can’t in good conscience vote for someone who is not, but I also can’t vote for someone who has no chance to win &#8211; to me that is the same as voting for Hillary Clinton.</p>
<p>I think it would be far better to get Huckabee in office, even with his somewhat less conservative policies, than to have a 100% liberal democrat in office.&#8221;</p>
<p>Emily and any other person who is struggling with the viability question I challenge you to read the following article.<br />
<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north536.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north536.html</a></p>
<p>It was Stonewall Jackson who said &#8220;“Duty is ours; consequences are God&#8217;s.”</p>
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		<title>By: Perry C.</title>
		<link>http://inashoe.com/2008/01/what-makes-a-conservative/#comment-13128</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Momma said 

&quot;isolationalism (is that a word?) and “world bullying”&quot;

To which I reply ... just so! Ron Paul&#039;s policy of pulling back all of our troops and loosening up trade with many of these countries strikes just such a balance. 

I agree with Meredith completely in that no one (not even the US) like to be bullied around. A point Dr. Paul makes frequently is that if other countries treated us the way we treat them we&#039;d never stand for it.

As far a general foreign policy questions Amanda definitely hit the nail on the head. We must be bound by the Constitution. By original intent interpretations and not evolutionary/ evolving law theories that make the objective meaning of the document irrelevant.  This is just what Dr. Paul does. So far I haven&#039;t seen ANY other candidate describe his platform in terms of the limitations the constitution places on the office. Frankly they don&#039;t even understand the constitution.

Look at this voting guide put out by Wall Builders
http://wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=5386

On 2 issues &quot;Human life amendment&quot; and traditional marriage amendment&quot; Dr. Paul is given a &quot;no&quot;.

Why? Because he favors abortion and gay marriage? Nope although I think the chart is written to lead the casual reader to infer that. He opposed them because he argues here http://www.ronpaul2008.com/articles/86/respect-for-life-begins-with-respect-for-the-constitutional-rule-of-law/ and here http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul207.html that  the principles of limited government and respect for the rule of law will inescapable lead us there _ WITH OUT NEW LAWS.

Unless we base our foreign policy first on the limitations of Scripture (read just war theory here) and second on the limitations of the Constitution (like Congress declaring war on a country not on a concept) then we are courting nothing short of tyranny. The rule of law means that law has transcendent meaning and not that we obey whatever rule the king makes.  

The founders and Ron Paul&#039;s cry is Lex Rex not Rex (or arbitror) Lex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Momma said </p>
<p>&#8220;isolationalism (is that a word?) and “world bullying”&#8221;</p>
<p>To which I reply &#8230; just so! Ron Paul&#8217;s policy of pulling back all of our troops and loosening up trade with many of these countries strikes just such a balance. </p>
<p>I agree with Meredith completely in that no one (not even the US) like to be bullied around. A point Dr. Paul makes frequently is that if other countries treated us the way we treat them we&#8217;d never stand for it.</p>
<p>As far a general foreign policy questions Amanda definitely hit the nail on the head. We must be bound by the Constitution. By original intent interpretations and not evolutionary/ evolving law theories that make the objective meaning of the document irrelevant.  This is just what Dr. Paul does. So far I haven&#8217;t seen ANY other candidate describe his platform in terms of the limitations the constitution places on the office. Frankly they don&#8217;t even understand the constitution.</p>
<p>Look at this voting guide put out by Wall Builders<br />
<a href="http://wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=5386" rel="nofollow">http://wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=5386</a></p>
<p>On 2 issues &#8220;Human life amendment&#8221; and traditional marriage amendment&#8221; Dr. Paul is given a &#8220;no&#8221;.</p>
<p>Why? Because he favors abortion and gay marriage? Nope although I think the chart is written to lead the casual reader to infer that. He opposed them because he argues here <a href="http://www.ronpaul2008.com/articles/86/respect-for-life-begins-with-respect-for-the-constitutional-rule-of-law/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ronpaul2008.com/articles/86/respect-for-life-begins-with-respect-for-the-constitutional-rule-of-law/</a> and here <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul207.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul207.html</a> that  the principles of limited government and respect for the rule of law will inescapable lead us there _ WITH OUT NEW LAWS.</p>
<p>Unless we base our foreign policy first on the limitations of Scripture (read just war theory here) and second on the limitations of the Constitution (like Congress declaring war on a country not on a concept) then we are courting nothing short of tyranny. The rule of law means that law has transcendent meaning and not that we obey whatever rule the king makes.  </p>
<p>The founders and Ron Paul&#8217;s cry is Lex Rex not Rex (or arbitror) Lex.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea from Germany</title>
		<link>http://inashoe.com/2008/01/what-makes-a-conservative/#comment-13083</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea from Germany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are two neat links for comparing the various candidates.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://life.familyeducation.com/elections/presidents/56449.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Family Education&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://glassbooth.org/explore/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Glass Booth&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are two neat links for comparing the various candidates.</p>
<p><a href="http://life.familyeducation.com/elections/presidents/56449.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Family Education</b></a></p>
<p><a href="http://glassbooth.org/explore/" rel="nofollow"><b>Glass Booth</b></a></p>
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		<title>By: Momma</title>
		<link>http://inashoe.com/2008/01/what-makes-a-conservative/#comment-13082</link>
		<dc:creator>Momma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate your input, Meredith, and am following this thread with interest.  I haven&#039;t agreed with much of Bush&#039;s action in the last few years, especially not locking down on the southern border, and tightening the northern border, but there has to be a balance between isolationalism (is that a word?) and &quot;world bullying&quot;.  

Whatever happens, the Lord is lining up the players.  We can trust Him to work things to His glory!  Come, Lord Jesus, Come!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your input, Meredith, and am following this thread with interest.  I haven&#8217;t agreed with much of Bush&#8217;s action in the last few years, especially not locking down on the southern border, and tightening the northern border, but there has to be a balance between isolationalism (is that a word?) and &#8220;world bullying&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Whatever happens, the Lord is lining up the players.  We can trust Him to work things to His glory!  Come, Lord Jesus, Come!</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith_in_Aus</title>
		<link>http://inashoe.com/2008/01/what-makes-a-conservative/#comment-13080</link>
		<dc:creator>Meredith_in_Aus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having followed Ron Paul&#039;s campaign, having my husband studied politics and international relations, and speaking as an &quot;outsider&quot; (Australian), I can vouch for RP&#039;s stand on foreign policy.  Much of the world is bothered by the interference that the US has had in other countries.  No country wants to be manipulated by a big bully.  I don&#039;t say this to be hateful to Americans.  There is much that I appreciate about you guys!  I just don&#039;t think your government realises how they come across to the rest of the world.   

No tomatoes, please.  As I said, I&#039;m just offering an outsiders view and I mean no offense to any individuals.

In Him

Meredith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having followed Ron Paul&#8217;s campaign, having my husband studied politics and international relations, and speaking as an &#8220;outsider&#8221; (Australian), I can vouch for RP&#8217;s stand on foreign policy.  Much of the world is bothered by the interference that the US has had in other countries.  No country wants to be manipulated by a big bully.  I don&#8217;t say this to be hateful to Americans.  There is much that I appreciate about you guys!  I just don&#8217;t think your government realises how they come across to the rest of the world.   </p>
<p>No tomatoes, please.  As I said, I&#8217;m just offering an outsiders view and I mean no offense to any individuals.</p>
<p>In Him</p>
<p>Meredith</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://inashoe.com/2008/01/what-makes-a-conservative/#comment-13079</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I do think policies might need changing princiapls should not.  Such as the principal of non-agression and the principal of non-tangling alliances.  How about the principal of obeying the rule of law?  Our Constitution says that only Congress shall declare war and yet we are in a pre-emptive war in a country we invaded looking for WMD that didn&#039;t exsist all without a declaration of war.  All the while our borders are unsecure, hostility is increasing toward the US, and we are losing more of our civil liberties all in the name of &quot;safety.&quot;    And we think they only want to attack us because we are free and rich.  The term is called &quot;blowback&quot; and our own governemnt&#039;s 9/11 comission gave it as one of the causes we were attacked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I do think policies might need changing princiapls should not.  Such as the principal of non-agression and the principal of non-tangling alliances.  How about the principal of obeying the rule of law?  Our Constitution says that only Congress shall declare war and yet we are in a pre-emptive war in a country we invaded looking for WMD that didn&#8217;t exsist all without a declaration of war.  All the while our borders are unsecure, hostility is increasing toward the US, and we are losing more of our civil liberties all in the name of &#8220;safety.&#8221;    And we think they only want to attack us because we are free and rich.  The term is called &#8220;blowback&#8221; and our own governemnt&#8217;s 9/11 comission gave it as one of the causes we were attacked.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs. Mecomber,
Don&#039;t you think that perhaps our current foreign policy might need to be a bit different from that of George Washington?  GW had an ocean between him and the rest of the world, and it took months to cross it.  Whereas we have terrorists capable of flying our own planes into buildings on our own soil, pretty much at their convenience.  We just don&#039;t live in the same world, and policy has to change to reflect that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Mecomber,<br />
Don&#8217;t you think that perhaps our current foreign policy might need to be a bit different from that of George Washington?  GW had an ocean between him and the rest of the world, and it took months to cross it.  Whereas we have terrorists capable of flying our own planes into buildings on our own soil, pretty much at their convenience.  We just don&#8217;t live in the same world, and policy has to change to reflect that.</p>
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