More on the Sanctity of life.

My good friend Doug Phillips has posted an article from Dan Becker of the Georgia Right to Life. In it Mr. Becker quotes the Association of Pro-life Physicians.   I found the following exerpt to be helpful:

“It is only ethical to remove the tubal pregnancy if spontaneous resolution does not occur after watchful waiting and if the physician is 100% certain that there are no twins. At this point, the embryo in the fallopian tube is likely to be dead and, even if not, the death is unavoidable and unintentional, and the procedure is necessary to save the life of the mother. **In conclusion, there are no occasions in which the intentional killing of the pre-born child is justified.”

Read the rest of the article here “Is Innocent Human Life Ever Negotiable? Part I

Comments

  1. Debbie, I’m so sorry for what you’ve gone through. I know how difficult it is to want a baby when so many seem to have no problems getting pregnant and staying pregnant. I never had a pregnancy despite years of trying and hoping. Just know your pregnancies were not ended by abortion, they were pregnancies that just didn’t end up with viable babies. I don’t believe God caused these losses, He wouldn’t do that. When you think of all the things that have to be in order for a pregnancy to succeed it’s a wonder anyone goes on to have a baby. I hope you will one day have your own baby to love and hold.

  2. In my last post I commented that I was going to back away and say nothing else yet I want to say thank you Annabeth for your comments. I feel mine have been disregarded by many if not all fellow posters in what is an already dreadful situation to be in. Perhaps you worded your response better than I did – you describe the pain so acurately and I don’t think it is fair for others to hold such strong opinions of ‘waiting and watching’ if they have not themselves been in this situation. I have queried my faith for days now – unsure if it has been God who has brought me through this. I can not have belief if God dictates this mind set. I do not wish to offend, but I have been offended which is why I am desperate to get my opinion and feelings accross. I have stayed away for a few days to ponder life and try to reflect yet I still have the same opinion and it is so far away from the majority of opinion here. I have discussed this with many friends and family and they too are disgusted by the opinion shared here. So sad in an already destructive world that some now find it their job to educate others in such a condemning manner. I am not a sinner and WILL not be treated this way. I want to have one child – a part of me and my husband to live on. As time goes on this looks less and less likely. To be told through opinion here that I have potentially aborted 5 children makes me so upset and angry. Please do think before casting such shadows on other peoples lives. God surely doen’t condone your attitude and behaviour on this issue??

  3. Yes! God’s word is sufficient and his authority is sufficient. Thank you so much Kim, for sharing your research. I could feel my faith being stretched and growing as I read your last two posts.

    Loving my post partum days with progesterone cream,
    Tracey

  4. Annabeth says:

    Kim, you’ve done a great deal of research on ectopic pregnancy, and as a survivor of this little understood issue, I am touched by how much thought you’ve put into this. But I offer this gentle caution on “watchful waiting”: A ruptured ectopic pregnancy can be a horrific experience, far more serious than I think the responders here understand.

    When my ectopic ruptured, I was in so much pain that I vomited too many times to count. I was in so much pain that I defecated on myself. The pain was so intense that I could barely draw breath. Multiple doses of the strongest drugs the ER had to offer barely made a dent in it.

    And a ruptured ectopic requires that you endure that pain for hours. It’s not as if you just walk into the ER and the carry you right off to surgery. As your research shows, ectopic pregnancies are difficult to diagnose, and the protocol for a diagnosing a ruptured ectopic requires multiple steps. My ectopic ruptured at 7:00 am, and I went into surgery at 3:00 that afternoon. It wasn’t until then that the pain finally and mercifully ended.

    In the vast majority of ectopic cases, the woman is far enough along to confirm that the fetus is located in the fallopian tube and that there are no twins. In addition, God almost always gives us other signs as well that the pregnancy will not survive — most woman with ectopic pregnancies will start to bleed and in most ectopic cases, the woman’s hcg levels are not rising normally. I’ve suffered through two ectopics and both times, God told me very clearly when it was time to let go.

    This is the reality for the vast, vast majority of couples facing an ectopic pregnancy. And if a couple with that information still wants to take the “watchful waiting” approach, then God be with them.

    I just want everyone here to understand how serious the risk is.

  5. (Sorry…that last sentence should have read…the gifts the Lord has given you two to *bless* the Body.)

  6. Perry, as Erik and I have given this issue much thought and discussion over the past few years, the twins issue has never occurred to us. Just another thing that we need to be mindful of.

    Thank you, and Kim, for bravely daring to go where few have gone. The Church needs to be sharpened, and we’re grateful for the gifts the Lord has given you two to the Body.

  7. Hello Kim,

    Just wanted to let you know that at the very least, your recent posts have encouraged me to ALWAYS get a second opinion. I had not realized that ectopic pregnancies could be either viable or “misdiagnosed”. Thanks for making me consider the shades of gray.

  8. Your previous post prompted me to delve back into research on this issue. I’ve long had a personal stake there- one of my aunts has an ectopic pregnancy that had to be removed under the conditions described in the APLP quote you included above. I’d since been under the impression that all ectopic pregnancies resulted in the same conditions and state of emergency that hers did. Thanks VERY MUCH for providing links and information elaborating on this sensitive issue! It’s been very enlightening.

  9. Yes, thanks from me, too, Kim! You did a whole lot of research! I’m so glad Doug and you are helping to bring this issue to the forefront of folks’ minds.

    Most of us who call ourselves pro-life won’t have to experience something as frightening and uncertain as an ectopic pregnancy but I really believe we (and our husbands) need to examine our hearts and determine if we are willing to lay down our lives, by God’s grace, should we ever be confronted with that situation, for the sake of the tiny life within.

    I really appreciate that Doug is calling Christians specifically to “charitable and irenic” discussion. He knows this is a sticky issue but is courageously yet humbly, and with compassion, urging the Church to reexamine the issue in light of Scripture. Someone has to get the minds informed and the conversation going.

    Thanks again, Kim!

    Love,
    Ruthanne

  10. Thank you for doing this post and the previous one. I am wondering where my head has been the past several decades that although I’m staunchly anti-abortion, I’d never given a thought to the viability or sanctity of ectopics.

    Thanks for bringing awareness. Wonderful posts, full of the wonder of our Creator and the precious and amazing blessing of life!

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