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McDonald’s boycott

sigh.  Goodbye, golden arches.  Hello, Wendy’s.

I avoided posting about this, but it’s only getting worse.  We like McDonald’s $1 value menu, and used to stop in when we found ourselves in town at mealtime without a plan.  It’s not health food, but a $1 double cheeseburger has a certain appeal and it goes a long way toward filling a hungry belly.  A couple of large orders of fries go a long way among a group of children.  It was a nice little family splurge - one we probably indulged in too often.

But no more.

First, McDonald’s paid $20,000 to become an official “organizational ally and corporate partner” of the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce and secure a seat on the group’s board of directors.

That was enough to convince many Christians to boycott McDonald’s, but some of us continued to patronize them.  We needed a bit more motivation, and McDonald’s has provided it.

  • McDonald’s also sponsored the 2007 San Francisco Gay Pride parade with a television commercial.  In the ad, a McDonald’s official brags that it is “a company that actively demonstrates its commitment to the gay and lesbian community.”
  • In response to the boycott, McDonald’s spokesman Bill Whitman was quoted in the Washington Post suggesting that those who oppose same-se*-marriage are motivated by hate, saying “…hatred has no place in our culture.” McDonald’s has decided to adopt the “hate” theme used by gay activist groups for years.
  • McDonald’s CEO Jim Skinner said the company will promote issues they approve. “Being a socially responsible organization is a fundamental part of who we are. We have an obligation to use our size and resources to make a difference in the world…and we do.”

There’s more.  Use the search button on the AFA website to see how actively McDonald’s is courting this God-hating segment of the population, or visit the Boycott McDonald’s website.

What will we do about it?  Pray for the repentance of McDonald’s officials; pray for God’s mercy upon a nation which tolerates open homosexuality; and boycott McDonald’s.

I’ll make it even easier for you to get started on the boycott: click here to download the petition.  Each form has space for 10 signatures.  Print it, sign it along with 9 other people, and mail it to the address on the form.  Then hand out new copies to everyone you know so they can have their friends and family sign as well.  If you’re really motivated, consider including an addressed, stamped envelope when you give copies to your friends.

Ways to make your boycott effective:

  • Pray for God to change the hearts of McD’s officials.
  • Call or visit local McD’s to politely tell the manager why you no longer patronize the chain.
  • Sign the online petition, and email the link to your friends and family.
  • Leave a comment on the AFA’s Boycott McDonald’s site.
  • Print out this petition and distribute it.  Don’t forget to mail yours, and encourage others to do so.
  • Make photocopies of your filled-in petitions to deliver to McDonald’s locations near you.
  • Blog about your disapproval of McD’s stance and/or your participation in the boycott.  You can be sure McD’s is watching.

P.S.  Let’s not turn this into a discussion of how God feel about homose*uality or those who practice it.  God speaks clearly against the practice in both the Old Testament and the New Testament, condemning it in no uncertain terms.

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70 Responses to “McDonald’s boycott”

  1. You forgot the most important part. Homosexuals are people and deserve our respect. The Bible also teaches tolerance — Jesus taught by love and example, not by waving petitions in the air and boycotting Mc Donalds.

    Love is the answer.

    I am a straight, married, Christian Mom. And I leave the judgment to my Lord.

    Thank you for allowing me to share my opinion.

  2. As long as your pray for McDonalds, I will pray that you are actually become more like Jesus and love and accept everyone. I don’t remember hearing about Jesus boycotting anyone because they believed differently. He loved all.

    I am sure you will have a lot to answer for when you meet your savior.

  3. Jesus says in Matthew 7:13-14 ” Enter through the narrow gate, For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and few are those who find it.” In Matthew 10 Jesus speaks about “All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.” the entire context of that chapter is relevant to Jesus’s true character as well. Also in Matthew 10:34 JESUS says “Do Not Suppose That I Have Come to Bring Peace to the Earth. I did Not Come to Bring Peace, but a Sword.”
    True, Jesus is love, but never condoning of sin. We must HATE the sin, not tolerate it. We must LOVE the sinner, not tolerate them.
    My two cents being an ex-massive liberal.
    Blessings

  4. I have always enjoyed reading your blog and about your family. I know about your family’s beliefs but it still makes me wonder. How anyone, no matter what the bible tells you to do, can show so much hate toward so many people just because of who in there heart they love.

    If god is such the loving and caring person you say he is, he would not be wanting you all to show so much hatred.

  5. I agree kim!! we have already signed the petition too

  6. thanks, Kim! We were already boycotting due to these reasons… We had already eliminated eating their b/c of health reasons but once and awhile we drove through b/c it was a cheap & fast way to feed so many littles. (And I’ll admit it- I LOVE their cokes!) However, we all feel so much better when we do not eat that kind of food! :)

  7. So, the spokesman for McDonalds said that those opposed to h———–y are motivated by hate, eh? Some tolerance for sure! :D

    I wonder how many customers they just alienated, and how many employees they will be loosing! Hopefully a lot, because big corporations seem to have been becoming more flagrant in their evil, haven’t they?

    Thanks for taking the stand, Kim, and for making others aware.

    P.S. If my response to another comment isn’t minded, I would just like to say that I agree with KimC(too!). My own two cents is that, we cannot possibly “respect homo—–s” by being careful about what we say about them and their sin. The way to respect them is to treat them like people for whom Christ suffered and died, by treating them as those who desperately need to repent and be saved.

    Above all, we must respect Jesus and His commandments. There is no commandment (outside of political correctness, which is almost always real incorrectness) that says that we shouldn’t be “harsh” on someone’s behavior or sin. God commands us to “tell the truth in love.”

    The most perfect way to hate someone is to treat them like they are “OK” out of fear of being criticized as “intolerant.” On the other hand, the most perfect way to truly love someone, is to treat them as God would treat them (out of love for God), even if it means saying some harsh things about their lifestyles — and God has done that plenty of times. Simply read the Bible, His inspired word.

    I agree with Kim. Let’s join in prayers that these people will be convicted and saved. But let’s also remember that God convicts people through His own people. We must take a bold stand. If we don’t, who is left to proclaim the truth?

  8. I don’t see why McDonald’s is the target of this boycott and lets the other corporate sponsors off the hook.

    Companies like IBM, Wells Fargo & Company, JPMorgan Chase, Motorola, Travelport, Intel, Wyndham Hotels & Resorts, American Airlines, American Express, Lehman Brothers, and Ernst & Young, Burger King, Albertsons, Intel Corporation, Intuit, Cisco Systems, Johnson & Johnson, Xerox, UPS, AT&T and on and on …. http://www.nglcc.org/corporate/partners

    I don’t think using McDonalds as the scapegoat accomplishes anything. I think it should be all or nothing.

  9. from the AFA/Boycott McDonald’s website:

    What the boycott of McDonald’s IS NOT about

    * This boycott is not about hiring homosexuals.
    * It is not about homosexuals eating at McDonald’s.
    * It is not about how homosexual employees are treated.

    What the boycott of McDonald’s IS about

    It is about McDonald’s, as a corporation, refusing to remain neutral in the culture wars. McDonald’s has chosen not to remain neutral but to give the full weight of their corporation to promoting the homosexual agenda, including homosexual marriage.

  10. Oh, man… you had to go and tell me this just when I was really looking forward to my bacon, egg and cheese biscuit in the morning! :-)

    I had no idea. Thank you so much for your stand and informing those of us ‘out of the loop’.

  11. *Ahem*

    Mat 10:34-37:

    Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

    For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

    And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

    He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

    1Co 6:9-11

    Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homose*uality,

    nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

    And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

    Rom 1:26-28:
    For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature;

    and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

    And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

    Mat 21:12-13:
    And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all who sold and bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons.

    He said to them, “It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’ but you make it a den of robbers.”

    Wow what a lot of loving tolerance.

  12. that girl when you say

    ” The Bible also teaches tolerance — Jesus taught by love and example, not by waving petitions in the air and boycotting Mc Donalds.

    Love is the answer.”

    It kinda begs the question “What is love?”

    Can you define it for us?

    John14:15 “If you love Me, keep] My commandments.

  13. I laughed when you quoted him to say,

    “We have an obligation to use our size and resources to make a difference in the world…and we do.”

    They got that right! They sure have used their size and resources to make a difference…ironically…in the size and resources of the millions and millions they’ve served all these decades! LOL!

    Good riddance to them. The temple of the Holy Spirit can only benefit without it.

  14. just thought i’d say, that although “that girl” is right in saying God loves homosexuals, boycotting macdonalds is not about showing hatred of them personally, its about showing that their sinful actions are not acceptable.

    “hate the sin, love the sinner”

  15. I have been reading your blog for a while now and have been impressed by the love you show for your family, and the efficiency and dedication with which you run your home. Your children and family are beautiful and happy.

    I support you and your family’s right to live and worship as you choose and from reading your writings I can tell that your lifestyle and worship has resulted in many blessings for your family. However, I cannot really see the good that will come from this boycott (other than the obvious health benefits…lol!).

    It seems to me that objecting to MacDonald’s union with the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce, an organization committed to advocating for opportunies for LGBT business person, is an objection to the secular well being of people who adhere to a different religious ideal than you happen to put faith in. This does not seem to be a loving treatment of people, sinners or no.

    Additionally, I wonder if there would be the same uproar in the Christian community if MacDonalds was supporting a “Jewish Chamber of Commerce” advertising at a Hanukkah festival or giving money towards organizations that support Jewish (or other non-christian religions) advocacy groups. I do not believe that the backlash would be the same, and that leads me to the conclusion that there is a component beyond taking a stand for the Bible and Christ. Especially since I generally think that faith in Christ is a much more important element of Christian practice than one’s sexual behavior.

    In any case, I intend no disrespect with my comments. As I have read your blog I have been consistently awed by the skill with which you raise your children and run your household. Whether this comment makes it past moderation or not I deeply appreciate your taking time to consider my thoughts.

    Thank you very much, and best wishes to you and your family

    -Millie

  16. It is about McDonald’s, as a corporation, refusing to remain neutral in the culture wars. McDonald’s has chosen not to remain neutral but to give the full weight of their corporation to promoting the homosexual agenda, including homosexual marriage.

    Even I can agree Mc Donalds should keep their nose out of it. What frightens me is the word culture wars. You see I am on the other end. No I am not gay, but I am Pagan. I am the “enemy” in this culture war, yet I love conservative Christians that are decent. I am not at “war” with anyone. Why would anyone wish to be at “war” with me? It unnerves me that Wal-mart was boycotted over saying Happy Holidays, guess what we don’t shop there anymore. The last time the cashier asked what Jesus was bringing my children. I said nothing we’re heathens, if it’s any of her business. My children feel uncomfortable. We love to live peacefully among our very Christian neighbors, but they will not allow peace many time.

    I have a question, what has your Lord said about the least of his children and how you treat them? I was actually told I was not a child of God because I was Pagan, but as I understood it by virtue of birth I am. I believe what I do and don’t do, celebrate and don’t celebrate, is between me and my understanding of God. But this culture war will not allow it to be so. While I agree, Mc Donalds messed up, I also believe many conservative Christians go to far in requiring Merry Christmas be splashed everywhere. Christianity is not the only religion in this country, you guys just have the financial market cornered for now, due to the size of your group. Plus, in reality Christmas as Conservative Christians currently celebrate it is very Pagan, which is why I can’t understand the whole thing the most. Do some research, please, if you don’t believe me.

    By the by, my family and I celebrate Yule. We have since I was 17. In England it is considered proper to say both Merry Christmas and Happy Yule because they are intertwined so heavily. Only in America would it be such a problem. However, I do know of several Jewish people that don’t celebrate anything resembling Christmas. I wonder how they feel about the Wal-Mart boycott. Blessings and Peace

  17. My 2 cents…if I give my money to a company that OPENLY condones what I beleive what is wrong than I am giving them money to advertise what is wrong. That is why my husband and I signed too and will not be eating there. It will make traveling hard this summer. It was cheap for a large family. As kim said Hello wendys!

  18. McDonald’s profits help fund naked homosex-fest
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70903

  19. Hello Wendy’s, please tell me you have Sweet Tea?!
    Thank you Kim, we signed and are passing this along.
    God Bless,
    Michele

  20. I always wonder if these things really work– especially with people that are hardened in their ways. McD’s clearly has taken a stand, and believes they’ve taken the right one.

    Biblically, I have a choice that I can make. I can continue to patronize them (Romans 14- if Paul could eat meat offered to idols whose money went to false prophets, I can eat a Big Mac that has 1 cent go to support homosexual causes) or I can choose to boycott and hope they’ll change their position.

    I can choose other places to eat– that’s not a problem. But I shouldn’t judge those that do not boycott.

    The other thing to think about is whether or not this will have the opposite effect. While I’m definitely in the “holiness” camp and not in the “love” camp, this is yet another opportunity for the Enemy to characterize us as unloving.

    Indeed, we need a positive thing we’re doing instead, and not just a negative thing. We also need to be careful that we do not exaggerate the importance of this one sin. We may all be willing to jump on the bandwagon of boycotting a place that supports homosexuality– but how about those that promote gluttony, gossip, and other immorality.

    And do we really sit down and figure out what ever one of the places that we eat at and buy our groceries at support?

    I’m trying to give you things to think about. I believe homosexuality is one of the latter things that happens to a culture in decline, and it’s something that should be fought against, but we’re hypocrites if we only judge where we will eat based on this one issue.

    We’re all sinners– some saved by grace. We need to be praying and working to bring people to repentance. This is more important than worrying about buying a burger from a specific place.

  21. Thanks for posting about this, and all the links, too. Our family stopped shopping at Wal-mart (Sam’s, Asda) nearly 2 years ago when they joined the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce, and were disheartened to learn that McDonald’s had also joined. I haven’t seen any Wendy’s since we moved to England, and Burger King here doesn’t have a value menu, but some things are worth paying extra for.

  22. I am so disappointed in your post. What happened to tolerance? I visit your site daily, but I think I’m going to have to stop coming by until you do the Christian thing and accept that homosexuals are just people like you and me and deserve respect and understanding — not your backward, bigoted thinking.

  23. Wow… the replies to this post are a good representation of what postmodern thinking has done to the church… it’s so appalling. There is real truth in Christ! We know what’s wrong and right because it has been revealed in His Word!!!
    I support your stance wholeheartedly, Kim!

  24. Ack! I hate to see this post because I love you and your family soooo much. I thought about not responding at all because I figure it’s your blog and you have the right to post what you believe and if we readers don’t like it or don’t agree, too bad, but I do feel like I have to say something so I will just say what I feel and believe and leave it at that.

    I thought about boycotting your blog because I so totally disagree with you, but that would only hurt me, not you, because I would miss reading about your wonderful family.

    So, I will continue reading your blog for the family stuff but will also continue cringing at the other stuff. LOL

    I support the gay and lesbian right to marry 100% and I am glad that big corporations like McDonalds are supporting them. They deserve to be happy and a lot of their marriages and homes are happier and stronger than their heterosexual counterparts. They are not hurting me in any way by being married. We can live side by side.

  25. Yikes! I had no idea. We are joining in this too.

    I don’t get the argument that we shouldn’t boycott because we’re to love the sinner. I won’t give my support to an organization that *encourages* sin. If we truly love the sinner, we should try to help them, not encourage them to continue down a path that leads to destruction.

  26. Tolerance is not a term found in the Bible. We pray for the repentance of
    each and every homosexual, but we do not tolerate, condone or encourage sin
    in anyone’s life - and neither did Christ.
    But this is not about homosexuals themselves. This boycott is about
    McDonald’s determination to become a leader in the pro-homosexual political
    cause. They are not just “tolerating” it; they are pushing it. They are
    setting themselves up against God’s standard revealed in the Bible,
    declaring themselves to be enemies of our Lord and thus our enemies as well.
    This is why we are publicly opposing McDonalds.

  27. As a reader with several gay relatives that I love very much and have a wonderful relationship with I want to say that I agree with Kim 100%.

    You can love the sinner without loving the sin. My relatives know that while I love them I can never accept their lifestyle. I would do anything for them, just as I would for any of my other family members.

    This is not an easy stand to take. It would be much easier to go along with the “wordly” view. However, my faith will not allow that. God’s Word has made it very clear how He feels about this subject. His Word does not change. It is everlasting.

    Those of us who call ourselves Christians cannot pick and chose God’s rules we would like to abide by. That is not a choice we have been given.

    As with all sin it is best to obstain than to be seperated from God forever. These are not my views, or Kim’s views, but God’s.

    As far as the McDonald’s issue goes, I understand why people who feel strongly about honoring God would feel they cannot support an establishment that so blatantly seems to be pursuing an agenda that is 100% opposed to Biblical teaching. If God is leading you to feel like you should not go to McDonalds I definitely think you should honor that conviction.

    As Christians we won’t always agree. If I stopped reading the blogs I didn’t agree with 100% of the time I would have a very small list of blogs to visit. Lets remember to show each other a little Grace from time to time.

    Thanks for letting me share.

    Blessings,
    Julie

  28. Very well said Kim.
    A sin is a sin is a sin. This is clearly spelled out in the Bible as a sin. And no sin is greater than another. Murder is a sin…so should we encourage that? Wait. The world already does, it’s called abortion.
    And am the only one who finds it a slight bit amusing someone preaches tolerance and ends their point with insults & name calling? I won’t lie, it made me chuckle. :)
    God Bless,
    Michele

  29. Checking in after a long time, and happy to see more babies in your family and things going well.

    I had to laugh reading this, because I usually think of liberals boycotting McDonalds. In the early 90s in London, I witnessed a HUGE anti-McDonalds demonstration. The demonstrators were complaining about animal cruelty, unfair labor practices, and environmental abuses.

    In another coincidence, my family has just decided to give up McDonalds (and all fast foods) in a new effort to go more organic/local. We are concerned about the humane treatment of animals, environmental issues, and our own health/nutrition.

    I just have to chuckle because poor McDonalds gets it from both sides. But I have a feeling they’ll keep going strong for a long long time because Americans love a good fast burger.

    Regards, HF

  30. Wow. I can hardly believe how many people who posted here are in favor of gays and lesbians. I just can’t believe it.

    I could believe it if it were just the world saying these things, but those claiming to be Christians? What happened to obedience? The Bible is so clear:

    1Co 6:9-11

    “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homose*uality,

    nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

    And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.”

    Rom 1:26-28:
    “For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature;

    and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

    And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.”

    Of course we should love the sinner - but how can we love the sin, and claim to love God? How can we smile at those who flaunt His laws, and claim to obey them ourselves?

    A woman once told my father, when he mentioned he was boycotting a certain store, “you can’t do that!!!” His reply was “Why not? It’s my money. I can spend - and NOT spend - my money where I want.”

    Make your own prayerful decision about where to spend your own money. But DON’T stand up defending sin. DON”T take pleasure in those that do such things. What do you think God thinks of you doing that?

    He tells us:

    “…Who, knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.” Romans 1:32

  31. I think the problem with the boycott is the inconsistency that prompts many of the boycotts that Christians enact. Many non-Christians feel animosity towards Christians because of this exact thing… hypocrisy.

    If Christians choose to boycott McDonalds because it supports homosexuality, that is their right and choice. But do they boycott gas stations that sell pornography? Do they boycott clothing brands that exacerbate greed and vanity? Do they boycott businesses that take the name of the Lord in vain in their advertisements?

    Is there a difference between tolerating an agenda or pushing an agenda? If someone idly stands by while someone is murdered, aren’t they too guilty of the end result? We make allowances for ourselves and our faith because we think it’s the only way we can live in a secular world. We tell ourselves that we can only really go against something when it’s so obviously wrong (basically, when it’s in the public eye). The rest of the world though, sees through our charade.

    How many people are falsely claiming that they will never eat at McDonald’s again? How many people will choose to go hungry on a long ride because McDonald’s is the only choice? It’s easy to make a promise on paper, but it’s another thing to live up to it.

    Before you choose to join a boycott, examine your own life, and remember that bearing false witness is as equal to the sin you’re protesting.

  32. Irony strikes again. It seems very odd to me to tell Kim you think she’s wrong for boycotting a company because she disagrees with their actions, therefore…you’re going to boycott her…because you don’t agree with her actions.

    ?????

  33. I agree w/ Melissa… if you research where even half your money goes on a daily/weekly/monthly basis you would cringe at finding out what charities or organizations are benefting from it. If we were to boycott everything that we didnt agree w/ we wouldnt shop anywhere for anything period. I think a lot of people boycott as a knee jerk reaction..just like when someone gets burnt by hot coffee ends up suing.. basically never say never..because you dont know when the one thing you detest most in life is the one thing that can actually be a helping hand. Boycotting major gas stations dont do any good either.. why? Because eventually everyone needs to fuel their vehicles and companies know this.. sure the Boycott or strike as it may, may last for a few days or even weeks..but eventually you find yourself back at those places because of convienece at the time.

  34. I loved how PerryC referred to me as “that girl”. Talk about a lack of respect. I was just voicing my opinion, which last time I checked I was still allowed to do in America. You have a public blog and I think you should be able to listen to those that disagree with you with respect. Referring to me as “that girl” when I said my name was Carrie is showing total disrepect. Is that how PerryC treats all women?

  35. i have not read any of these comments above (to long) but pretty soon, seriously, it will be a “hate crime” to preach against homos*xuality in our very own church services! A man is suing Zondervan publishing currently (a Bible printer) for publishing the verses in the Bible re sodomites…

    I pray it never comes to this but I know our church will never stop preaching the WORD if it means becoming “un-5013c” or whatever than so be it!

  36. Carrie - I believe PerryC is referring to the post above yours … she posted as “that girl” as her name… I dont think he was being disrespectful…just using the name that was given…. forgive me if I am wrong here.

  37. umm Carrie… I was not talking to you. Look at the comments….there is one above yours by someone who only identified herself as “that girl” :O

    I was talking to her hence my address to “that girl” ;)

    So if you are wondering if I show women the respect of addressing them by their name, then, yes I’d have to day I do. :)

    Now as to your comment

    “I don’t remember hearing about Jesus boycotting anyone because they believed differently. He loved all. ”

    I’d invite you to back it up from Scripture.

    Thanks Carrie, have a great day.

    PerryC

  38. There have been numerous comments with “hate the sin, and love the sinner.” I think that in light of the verses already mentioned we’ve established that the sin in question is one that God does indeed hate, but I would like to point out that He hates the sinner too. We, as Christians, are called to “love our neighbor” not by accepting or being tolerant of sin but by preaching them the gospel which includes repentance.

    Look: God does hate sinners (unsaved) -
    Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated

    And if the sinner doesn’t repent (continues to do evil) how am I supposed to feel about that?
    Psa 97:10 Ye that love the LORD, hate evil

    Psa 101:3 I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside

    Psa 139:21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?

    Amo 5:15 Hate the evil, and love the good

    Hbr 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, [even] thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

    Thank you for the heads up on this, I’ll be joining you in boycotting McD’s.

  39. Oh, wow, there is a lot going on with this post! I’m not here for the controversy, though :-). Just here to thank you for letting me know about McDonalds. We don’t eat there anyway, but it is good to know these things! I’ve been out of town with my family, so I have missed some things in the news :-).

    MOST importantly, I am writing to congratulate you all on your beautiful new baby girl. What a wonderful blessing she is!!! Enjoy these precious, busy days!!

    In Christ’s love,

    Sarah

  40. Perry & Kim,

    We, too, are not spending our money at McD’s any longer. We, too, used to grab a quick something off the $ Menu when our large family ended up in town during the meal hour and we needed some inexpensive something to fill our hungry tummies. But, no longer. We will not *knowingly* give our money to someone to be spent promoting what God calls sin.

    Thank you for standing for what is right knowing the firestorm that would follow, even though you asked for that not to happen.

    Thank you for asking others to define their terms and back their stands up with Scripture. The Church today wants to be all touchy feely and not build their foundation/theology from Scripture. And the World today is just thrilled to build our theology for us!

    It’s so easy to toss out terminology to make our touchy feely points and hearts feel good. But, when the end comes, God will define our terms, and no amount of our arguing or pouting or tossing out names or charges of intolerance will change God’s definitions of terms like sin, truth, love and tolerance.

    Just ask Lot what happened to Sodom & Gomorrah. It wasn’t pretty. Lot saw the destruction first hand and he lost his wife to her disobedience and “tolerance” to this lifestyle. I don’t think God *tolerates* sin. He HATES sin!

    Obedience = Blessing
    Disobedience = Cursing

    Thanks for taking the tiger by the tail and standing up for God’s truth, regardless of how the world defines “truth.”

    Now, I wonder how many hate hits your site will get from those who hate your stand? Tolerance is one of those hypocritical terms. Usually the one crying *intolerance* is the first one to be intolerant against those they are accusing of being intolerant!

    In Him,
    Laralee
    http://PlymouthRockRanch.com
    Recording the Faithfulness and Provision of God for Future Generations

  41. I thought that the people boycotting McDonald’s would also want to know who else they should be boycotting. Here is a list of the major sponsors, but see the website (http://www.nglcc.org/corporate/partners) to see who else you should avoid:

    IBM
    Johnson & Johnson
    Wells Fargo
    AT&T
    JPMorganChase
    Motorola Travelport
    Intel
    Burger King
    American Airlines
    Continental Airlines
    Albertson’s
    American Express
    Orbitz
    Ernest & Young
    UPS
    Kodak
    Office Max
    Hyatt
    Ramada
    Coldwell Banker Commercial
    Starwood Hotels and Resorts
    Pepsico Coors Light

    There’s more, but these are the ones you’re probably the most familiar with. So I take it that everyone will be closing bank accounts and credit cards, throwing out baby products, phone and cameras, getting rid of computers, not booking through or with Orbitz or these hotels and airlines, and etc.?

    This is back to the point I made earlier… consistency. If you’re going to boycott, boycott them all, otherwise, exactly what point are you making? Or do we usually just avoid the latest one to join the list?

  42. No matter if you choose to boycott McDonalds or not (I’m speaking to the broad “you”, not anyone specific), people actively living a homo_xual lifestyle are sinners. As are we all. I am not sure where we draw the line - if we boycott anything and everything that directly opposes Biblical teaching, then we’d have to boycott our friends, our families, our spouses, and our children on a daily basis! Gays and lesbians are in need of a Savior, but are they more in need than the rest of us are? Sin is sin - we are commanded to love one another, and yet we are similarly commanded to oppose sin. Seems like we’re awfully picky and choosy about what sin is “bad” enough to make a stand against, and that is just not our call.

    That all being said, I do not support McDonalds’ open declarations into this sphere of politics and disagree with them wholeheartedly. I wish they would keep their big mouths closed and get back to serving us all unhealthy, yet delicious, fast food. :-)

  43. Wow, I had no idea McD’s was so heavily for the homosexual agenda. We only eat there a couple times a year (Wendy’s is my favorite by FAR) but this probably won’t keep us from boycotting, for the reasons mentioned by MInthegap and others. I think boycotting is pointless, as far as “getting back” at the company, but I can understand why some people wouldn’t want to spend their money at certain establishments because of what they do or don’t support. That’s definitely your right, as patrons!!

    I also don’t tend to “target” a certain sin like homosexuality, because I know I’m no better than they are. My tendency towards anger or rebellion or pride or whatever other sins that I struggle with on a daily basis are just as bad as being homosexual. I certainly understand, as a Christian, not wanting to support something that is outright against God, I guess I just don’t see myself as being much better. :-(

  44. BTW, I find it really odd that the people preaching “tolerance” are usually the most short-tempered, and hateful of all. Talk about hypocrisy.

  45. McDonald’s food is TERRIBLE! Blech! And it takes weeks off your life every time you eat there. I think there are multiple other corporations that need to be boycotted , as well.

  46. Kim, first I want to say that I really enjoy reading about your family. You have bright and intelligent children, and your blog is thought provoking, well written and funny.

    I am mostly a lurker, but today when I read these words they kinda twisted at my heart. I am not necessarily a religious person, but I am spiritual.

    The problem with boycotting McDonald’s is that they have never made the claim that they are a Christian company. Every individual has the right to patronize the organizations that best fit their needs, but doing so as a catalyst for change will probably have no effect.

    I cannot say that I am able to quote the bible as quickly as some, but my understanding of faith in God is that is not to condemn and judge. I have full faith in the Lord that he will make right by His will, and that if it IS, that it is indeed His will.

    God makes no mistake in His creation. He knew us before He made us. He knows our souls. He makes no mistake in who we are, or who we become, for we are His creation.

    I have some very dear friends who are both lesbian and gay. I have known them since childhood and I know that they do not live their lives as a lifestyle choice. It doesn’t thrill me to think about what goes on behind closed doors in any relationship, therefore it is none of my business whether they are gay or straight.

    Love is the answer. While tolerance may not be taught in the bible, LOVE is. Love is tolerance for all of God’s creations. I love those who may not believe as I believe. God is mighty and strong and does not need me to defend His word. What is to be, will be.

    I love all of God’s creations and I will leave condemnation and judgment to the Lord. French fries, McNuggets and all…

  47. I agree that we are all sinful, however…

    I think there’s a difference between sinning and promoting a sinful lifestyle. You may be angry, rebellious, or proud on occasion, but are you actively promoting those sins as a lifestyle? Are you fighting for your right to be angry, rebellious and proud? Are you fighting to have the law changed so you can practice anger, rebellion and pride more easily? If someone says those actions are sinful, do you accuse them of hatred?

    There’s a difference between sinning and actively, publicly opposing God’s word.

    We gave up McD’s along with all the other restaurant a long time ago because we have a big family and a small budget, so this boycott isn’t really an issue for us. But I don’t think boycotting has to be all or nothing–either always boycotting or never boycotting. You would have to live pretty independently to never have to do business with someone you disagree with, but…Difference in belief is one thing. Someone who is actively hostile toward my beliefs is another.

    And for the record,Dody, I thought the Christmas Tree/Holiday Tree boycott was silly, but I also think it’s ridiculous that some stores wouldn’t allow their employees to say Merry Christmas. I thought both issues were a great reminder to Christians that the real meaning of Christmas will never be found in a store.

  48. Kim & Perry,
    I agree with you 100% that homse*uality is a sin. We Christians are called “intolerant” by people who do not “tolerate” our right to speak and write openly what we have learned from the Word of God. Kind of funny.

    I don’t know if I will boycott McDonald’s and it’s not because I think their cuisine is so fabulous. I just don’t want to make an empty promise. For example, I can’t find a grocery store that doesn’t assualt my family and me visually in the check-out line with magazines touting “Great S*x Tips!” I complained to a store manager but since his store is a chain, the best he could do was reconfigure the magazine racks so that most of the “se*y” magazines are hidden.

    When a candy bar company had a TV commercial in which a guy used the Lord’s name in vain multiple times, I called them and complained. (I never saw the ad again). I still buy that brand of candy bar b/c it is the only one my child can eat b/c of an allergy.

    How do I know about other companies/products? How do I know what they support? (Seriously, is there a site for this?) Thanks for keeping us informed of what’s going on the culture wars. And thank you for courage in taking a stand for Christ.

  49. This question might be off topic, so I apologize in advance, but I’m honestly wondering why some type the word “homose*ual” instead of “homosexual.”

    Could someone explain?

  50. I second what Melissa said. If you are going to ban all major stores/resturants that do not agree with your beliefs then you will find yourself banning just about everything in the world.

  51. Thanks for posting this. Good by, McDonalds. Wendys will definitely be getting our business. They support adoption and that is what our family is all about.
    This is a wonderful “teaching moment” for our children, too.

  52. Wow!! I too am surprised at the number of people who seem to be so accepting of sin. I am also surprised at the number of people who are so willing to “throw stones”–the way I read my Bible, homesexuality is no different than me eating that Big Mac, fries, and shake I don’t need or commenting on a blog with nothing but mean spiritedness and insinuation!

    I won’t be boycotting McDonalds. I don’t think boycotts make one single bit of difference but I don’t have any problems with people who choose not to patronize the restaurant for whatever reason. To me, boycotts are a great example of why legalism never works.

    For “clueless”–I believe some people use the asterisk because certain browsers/e-mail won’t accept the word “sex”.

  53. Goodness, I stopped eating at McDonald’s five years ago. Didn’t anyone read “Fast Food Nation” or see “Supersize Me?” McDonald’s is poisoning our bodies, and that’s more sinister to me.

    Melissa, thanks for the list of companies. Most interesting.

  54. I think the boycott is a waste of time. AFA has a long history of ineffective boycotts against, among others, Wal-Mart (for selling “Brokeback Mountain” DVDs), Ford Motor Company (for advertising in gay-friendly publications), and the American Girl dolls (because the maker contributed to a youth organization that was pro-choice and supported the acceptance of lesbians). In 2005, it finally called off its unsuccessful nine-year boycott of Disney (for its “embrace of the homosexual lifestyle“).

    McDonald’s should follow Disney’s lead and ignore the right-wing protests. After all, during the nine years AFA was boycotting Disney, the company saw record profits.

  55. What amazes me is that you are not being intolerant by choosing what your finances go to support, but many posters were intolerant of your posting and decided to make very intolerant accusations defending their own tolerance.

  56. Kim and co, please shoo the kids before reading my comment.

    Ok.

    I appreciate the love the sinner and hate the sin sort of *idea* and know that’s what Jesus would do, but neither would He tolerate it lightly around His kids. It’s a *sin* just like “sx with animals and children” is a sin…

    I abbreviated b/c you seem to, so I’m hopefully being polite, but I HAVE to say it! Sx with children is disgusting, deplorable, and should have NO PLACE in corporate America!

    So why can’t we say that about “h- sxual” behaviour??

    Just wondering and I hope I didn’t muddy the waters with my comment. God bless.

  57. Mrs. C.,

    Sex between consenting adults is completely different than the rape of a child or child exploitation. I don’t think anyone here would condone any kind of abuse towards a child.

    The issue is, religion shouldn’t have a place in politics (separation of church and state). That doesn’t mean that you can’t uphold what you believe it, but rather that you can’t force others to believe what you believe. What if the majority of Americans were Mormon and everyone decided that the national religion should Mormonism? You probably wouldn’t be happy, right?

    I’m sorry, because I know this is off topic a bit, but I believe this is the real issue. McDonald’s or any other corporation has the freedom to support who they wish, just as you have the freedom to frequent any store you wish.

  58. I want to point out that it has been reported that the American Girl company has withdrawn it’s support of Girls, Inc. after the outcry of the public voicing their opinions on the affiliation between them.

    We have enjoyed AG for many years, but have recently become aware of The Girls of Faith dolls, books, and clubs! Wonderful, beautiful products with a lovely message and historical foundation.

  59. We do not participate in boycotts, but we do not go to MC Donalds for other reasons like all their food makes me sick and is so gross, I feel ill just thinking about it!

  60. like melissa pointed out, there are so many huge corporations we *should* be boycotting in the name of consistency, but we’re not. i’ve got a huge beam in my eye, so i can say nothing about the speck in others.

  61. Melissa & Carrie,
    i can only speak for myself. I think I will at least TRY to do the right thing and hope that I do not fail and in the process become a false witness. It sounds more appealing to me rather than tell people to NOT do the right thing and be a stumbling block to others.
    If Christian never TRY then what is the point?
    I am trying. It’s an honest effort. If someone doesn’t think so then am i to give up? Please tell me WHERE in the Bible that it says to GIVE UP because you can’t be perfect? We all know we are sinners, so does that mean when the task is too big and tall , we shouldn’t try? For fear of looking like a hypocrite to non-believers?
    And why do either of you assume that people are not trying or they are going to fail from the get go? Failing does not mean you did put in an effort. And encouraging people to follow their convictions speaks a lot more than encouraging people to not even try.
    I tell my children all the time it is not the amount of mistakes that measure a persons character but how they handle them. No one is perfect. God knows that. We will all make mistakes but he does require that we TRY.
    God Bless,
    Michele

  62. Michele,

    Of course no one is perfect, but you’re right that we should never stop striving to be.

    My problem is with the targeting of McDonald’s. How many people here have a Bank of America account or a Pepsi product in their house? Both of those are also major supporters. Some people mentioned going to Burger King instead of McDonald’s. Well, Burger King is also a major supporter. My point is, if you’re going to make a statement by boycotting you have to do your homework, especially if you’re representing a faith.

    If you boycott one while patronizing another, what kind of statement are you making to your community and your children? Also, what kind of example are you if you sign a petition knowing that you won’t likely follow through?

  63. Wow. I don’t have an opinion on the McDonalds thing, just wanted to say I am stunned by the way people - commenters here and McDonalds themselves - are flinging around the accusation of hatred here. Expressing an opinion critical of someone’s behavior is not hate, it’s just - an opinion.

  64. Honestly I don’t care what McDonalds do with their money. I go pay and receive what I am paying for and that is all I care.

    I live in Mexico so the food quality is a lot better, you actually don’t get sick from eating at MD.

    My point is, we have no right to judge an individual or a company for their actions, we cannot control the world. Is up to the Lord to judge us all when the time comes.

  65. Just an FYI,
    Wendy’s supports adoption and foster kids. A great use of profits :)

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  68. Around 11:30 this morning yesterday morning,Melissa left the following comment

    “Sex between consenting adults is completely different than the rape of a child or child exploitation. I don’t think anyone here would condone any kind of abuse towards a child.

    The issue is, religion shouldn’t have a place in politics (separation of church and state). That doesn’t mean that you can’t uphold what you believe it, but rather that you can’t force others to believe what you believe. What if the majority of Americans were Mormon and everyone decided that the national religion should Mormonism? You probably wouldn’t be happy, right?”

    I want to take a moment to respond directly to this and then I’m closing comments on this thread.

    First Melissa asserts

    Sex between consenting adults is completely different than the rape of a child or child exploitation. I don’t think anyone here would condone any kind of abuse towards a child.

    She is correct that no one here is condoning that; however, the gay lifestyle is very condoning of pedophilia, a point Pastor Doug Wilson made well here and that I think was Mrs. C’s point.

    Secondly she asserts

    “The issue is, religion shouldn’t have a place in politics (separation of church and state).”

    Here she is completely off base. Religious expression is inescapable. The idea that “religion” has no place in the public sphere is in itself a religious statement. It is never a matter of whether or not someone’s religion will be enforce in the public sphere but a matter of WHOSE religion will be. Secular humanism and the relativism it brings are inescapably religious. Personally I prefer the eternal standards of God’s Word be enforced rather than the whims of the humanist and his relativist friends.

    Lastly she asks

    What if the majority of Americans were Mormon and everyone decided that the national religion should Mormonism? You probably wouldn’t be happy, right?”

    Right. Because Mormonism is false.

  69. Kim, I appreciate you taking the risk in posting this. Don’t let your heart be troubled by those who believe a false gospel and preach strange doctrines.

    For the record, I am not a huge fan of loud boycotts, protests, etc. And I think it is healthy for Christians to debate whether those methods are the most Christlike response to evil. But that is a far cry from raising a fuss over a boycott because you believe a false gospel and preach strange doctrines.

    I hope you understand that some of the attacks you got for this post are based on a false gospel.

  70. Hi Kim,

    I should have asked first, but I linked this entry to a post I wrote today on my blog. I really liked what you wrote and it made my brain go into overtime. Please let me know if you prefer I “unlink” you!

    ~Angel

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