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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://inashoe.com/2008/07/good-news-and-bad-news/#comment-16563</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay for nipple shields!  They kept me breastfeeding my first.  And I truly knew my husband had arrived as a full-fledged daddy the day we visited some friends in the hospital four months after our little one was born.  I overheard him imparting these wise words:  &quot;Just go ahead and get a nipple shield from the LC to take home with you...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay for nipple shields!  They kept me breastfeeding my first.  And I truly knew my husband had arrived as a full-fledged daddy the day we visited some friends in the hospital four months after our little one was born.  I overheard him imparting these wise words:  &#8220;Just go ahead and get a nipple shield from the LC to take home with you&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Evans</title>
		<link>http://inashoe.com/2008/07/good-news-and-bad-news/#comment-16559</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your baby is tongue tied, it&#039;s not very hard to clip it.  I know it sounds terrible, but my second had a heart shaped tongue and our doctor reccomended clipping the &quot;tied&quot; part.  At first I was worried that it would be painful.  However, the doctor said that in his experience, they always cry as long as he has his fingers in their mouth and then stop as soon as he makes the nessessary clip with the sissors and pulls his hands out.  That&#039;s exactly what happened.  It didn&#039;t seem to cause her any pain at all.  And she was able to use her tongue much better afterwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your baby is tongue tied, it&#8217;s not very hard to clip it.  I know it sounds terrible, but my second had a heart shaped tongue and our doctor reccomended clipping the &#8220;tied&#8221; part.  At first I was worried that it would be painful.  However, the doctor said that in his experience, they always cry as long as he has his fingers in their mouth and then stop as soon as he makes the nessessary clip with the sissors and pulls his hands out.  That&#8217;s exactly what happened.  It didn&#8217;t seem to cause her any pain at all.  And she was able to use her tongue much better afterwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://inashoe.com/2008/07/good-news-and-bad-news/#comment-16555</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be the lone disenter, LOL. But I think you and Bethany need to see a Lactation Consultant (who has worked with tounge tied babies before). Sore nipples, and slow weight gain/no weight gain are classic tounge tie issues. Although nipple shields will help with the pain, they won&#039;t solve the root issue which is the tounge tie. Also, using nipple shields long term can make your supply drop. If you were in San Diego, I&#039;d send you to my LC who is excellent and has helped me thru 3 tounge tied babies. :-) But I know you aren&#039;t, so I hope you find someone near you who is familiar with tounge ties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be the lone disenter, LOL. But I think you and Bethany need to see a Lactation Consultant (who has worked with tounge tied babies before). Sore nipples, and slow weight gain/no weight gain are classic tounge tie issues. Although nipple shields will help with the pain, they won&#8217;t solve the root issue which is the tounge tie. Also, using nipple shields long term can make your supply drop. If you were in San Diego, I&#8217;d send you to my LC who is excellent and has helped me thru 3 tounge tied babies. <img src='http://inashoe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  But I know you aren&#8217;t, so I hope you find someone near you who is familiar with tounge ties.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Pear</title>
		<link>http://inashoe.com/2008/07/good-news-and-bad-news/#comment-16540</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Pear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Our baby was very sleepy - typical C-section baby (not planned to be a C-section, at least not by us, but God has His own ideas!) plus she had jaundice just to make it even more fun and once she started gaining she gained a pound a week for 5 weeks straight. (apparently I was supplying the full fat version of milk, I guess all that ice cream paid off!)

Considering she started in the 25th percentile across the charts, that is impressive.

So I will tell you what you know, and what I know I wanted to hear those first few days when weight was not what it should be - hang in there and just keep going.  I know that you are a pro at this and I am a rank amateur with one and one on the way, but sometimes we just need to be encouraged.

So may the Lord bless you and sustain you, and may He help Bethany nurse enough to start packing on the pounds while helping you be comfortable nursing too.

Blessings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Our baby was very sleepy &#8211; typical C-section baby (not planned to be a C-section, at least not by us, but God has His own ideas!) plus she had jaundice just to make it even more fun and once she started gaining she gained a pound a week for 5 weeks straight. (apparently I was supplying the full fat version of milk, I guess all that ice cream paid off!)</p>
<p>Considering she started in the 25th percentile across the charts, that is impressive.</p>
<p>So I will tell you what you know, and what I know I wanted to hear those first few days when weight was not what it should be &#8211; hang in there and just keep going.  I know that you are a pro at this and I am a rank amateur with one and one on the way, but sometimes we just need to be encouraged.</p>
<p>So may the Lord bless you and sustain you, and may He help Bethany nurse enough to start packing on the pounds while helping you be comfortable nursing too.</p>
<p>Blessings!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://inashoe.com/2008/07/good-news-and-bad-news/#comment-16539</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had one baby that was petite and she was the same she just didn&#039;t gain weight like my other one&#039;s. She is going to be 6 and is still very petite but is very healthy. I like the idea of feeding a lot during the day but who wants to wake a sleeping baby especially during the night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had one baby that was petite and she was the same she just didn&#8217;t gain weight like my other one&#8217;s. She is going to be 6 and is still very petite but is very healthy. I like the idea of feeding a lot during the day but who wants to wake a sleeping baby especially during the night.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ended up having to use nursing sheilds, too, with my first.  Both of my babies had jaundice.  I nursed them as much as possible to get it out and also I would take them in the sun for about 5-10 minutes.  That is supposed to help.  I love your blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ended up having to use nursing sheilds, too, with my first.  Both of my babies had jaundice.  I nursed them as much as possible to get it out and also I would take them in the sun for about 5-10 minutes.  That is supposed to help.  I love your blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take care with nipple shields...they can cause a dramatic reduction in milk supply and make it difficult for some babies latch at the breast without them once the problem has resolved.  They should be a last resort.

Have you been over to Jack Newman&#039;s breastfeeding site? He is my favorite breastfeeding reference and his book is worth every single penny, many times over.

http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/newman.shtml

Specifically, look at the headings for Sore Nipples, Breast Compression and Handout #4 &quot;Is my baby getting enough milk?&quot;    

Changing the way you latch her on may help with the sore nipples, too.  If her tongue is short, you may need to try some suck training.  Essentially, you place a clean finger in her mouth, pad up.  Do not crook your finger so that the pad goes up into her palate, keep it flat.  As she sucks, bring her tongue forward.  Do this several time before latching her at the breast.

Milk thistle is a good idea.  Also, try the &quot;24 hour cure,&quot; get in bed with Bethany and stay skin to skin as much  as possible.  Nurse, nurse, nurse.  It may be that a good, solid day of nursing will help clear enough of the jaundice that she will wake easier.

Is this getting too technical?  Email me privately and I will happily share a phone number if you want to talk in person.

Meg
midwife, breastfeeding counselor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take care with nipple shields&#8230;they can cause a dramatic reduction in milk supply and make it difficult for some babies latch at the breast without them once the problem has resolved.  They should be a last resort.</p>
<p>Have you been over to Jack Newman&#8217;s breastfeeding site? He is my favorite breastfeeding reference and his book is worth every single penny, many times over.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/newman.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/newman.shtml</a></p>
<p>Specifically, look at the headings for Sore Nipples, Breast Compression and Handout #4 &#8220;Is my baby getting enough milk?&#8221;    </p>
<p>Changing the way you latch her on may help with the sore nipples, too.  If her tongue is short, you may need to try some suck training.  Essentially, you place a clean finger in her mouth, pad up.  Do not crook your finger so that the pad goes up into her palate, keep it flat.  As she sucks, bring her tongue forward.  Do this several time before latching her at the breast.</p>
<p>Milk thistle is a good idea.  Also, try the &#8220;24 hour cure,&#8221; get in bed with Bethany and stay skin to skin as much  as possible.  Nurse, nurse, nurse.  It may be that a good, solid day of nursing will help clear enough of the jaundice that she will wake easier.</p>
<p>Is this getting too technical?  Email me privately and I will happily share a phone number if you want to talk in person.</p>
<p>Meg<br />
midwife, breastfeeding counselor</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://inashoe.com/2008/07/good-news-and-bad-news/#comment-16525</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Praying for you and Bethany!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Praying for you and Bethany!</p>
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		<title>By: Laralee</title>
		<link>http://inashoe.com/2008/07/good-news-and-bad-news/#comment-16524</link>
		<dc:creator>Laralee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, jaundice babies tend to be lethargic and sleepy, making them poor nursers, which then feeds the jaundice, which then makes them sleepy, which makes them poor nursers.........    

Delaney was my starvation jaundice baby.  I had to time the nursings and wake, wake and triple wake her up using chinese water torture (ice water), feet tickling, total undressing, or whatever means I could to get her to wake up to eat.  My ped told me to nurse her round the clock every 2 hours.  I was literally nursing round the clock.  Took 2 months for her jaundice to subside and for her to wake up and care about nursing. 

I would push the nursing round the clock and not let her sleep any more than 3-4 hours at a time at the most.  I know, I know.  It&#039;s nice to have her sleep.  But, it&#039;s probably not what is best for her right now.

Also, if you take milk thistle, which is a liver cleanser, that should help her little liver to kick in.  It will also give you more milk though!  Doesn&#039;t sound like you need that help : )  

Laralee
http://www.PlymouthRockRanch.com
Recording the Faithfulness and Provision of God for Future Generations</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, jaundice babies tend to be lethargic and sleepy, making them poor nursers, which then feeds the jaundice, which then makes them sleepy, which makes them poor nursers&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;    </p>
<p>Delaney was my starvation jaundice baby.  I had to time the nursings and wake, wake and triple wake her up using chinese water torture (ice water), feet tickling, total undressing, or whatever means I could to get her to wake up to eat.  My ped told me to nurse her round the clock every 2 hours.  I was literally nursing round the clock.  Took 2 months for her jaundice to subside and for her to wake up and care about nursing. </p>
<p>I would push the nursing round the clock and not let her sleep any more than 3-4 hours at a time at the most.  I know, I know.  It&#8217;s nice to have her sleep.  But, it&#8217;s probably not what is best for her right now.</p>
<p>Also, if you take milk thistle, which is a liver cleanser, that should help her little liver to kick in.  It will also give you more milk though!  Doesn&#8217;t sound like you need that help : )  </p>
<p>Laralee<br />
<a href="http://www.PlymouthRockRanch.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.PlymouthRockRanch.com</a><br />
Recording the Faithfulness and Provision of God for Future Generations</p>
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		<title>By: qfbrenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>qfbrenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry you are still hurting!

I know you didn&#039;t ask for advice and you could teach classes on nursing after nursing so many blessings! LOL  But I&#039;m going to share this anyway, for what it&#039;s worth, because it has helped me so much.

When I nurse a newborn, first I latch them on as best I can.  Then I reach in with my free hand and use my thumb to pull gently down on their chin.  This makes sure their lips are flared, and helps teach them to open wide.  Doing this can really help if they aren&#039;t opening their mouths wide enough or positioning their lips correctly.  You mentioned her tongue being an interesting shape, so maybe this won&#039;t help.  But it wouldn&#039;t hurt to try!

And I agree with the pp&#039;s.... jaundiced babies can be very sleepy.  

I hope the nursing situation improves soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry you are still hurting!</p>
<p>I know you didn&#8217;t ask for advice and you could teach classes on nursing after nursing so many blessings! LOL  But I&#8217;m going to share this anyway, for what it&#8217;s worth, because it has helped me so much.</p>
<p>When I nurse a newborn, first I latch them on as best I can.  Then I reach in with my free hand and use my thumb to pull gently down on their chin.  This makes sure their lips are flared, and helps teach them to open wide.  Doing this can really help if they aren&#8217;t opening their mouths wide enough or positioning their lips correctly.  You mentioned her tongue being an interesting shape, so maybe this won&#8217;t help.  But it wouldn&#8217;t hurt to try!</p>
<p>And I agree with the pp&#8217;s&#8230;. jaundiced babies can be very sleepy.  </p>
<p>I hope the nursing situation improves soon!</p>
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