“And if Congress refuses to pass Dr. Paul’s bill, I will use the constitutional power of the Presidency to deny funds to protect abortion clinics.”

Is Baldwin advocating abortion clinic bombings?
Is that OK with anyone?

Voting is a choice of available options. Choices between available options requires stewardship of the Christian. Christian stewardship.

Voting for Obama to sort of “get on with” the judgment that God has for America is putting oneself not in the place of created, with the obligation we have to use stewardship to make our choices between alternatives, but instead puts ourselves in the place of God – presuming to know all of God’s ways, and his decision-making process. Clearly a violation of one of the most fundamental principles of scripture.

Isn’t the “lesser of two evils” still evil?

The “lesser of two evils” is a verbal expression in the English language adapted from Stockton’s 19th century short story, “The Lady or the Tiger.” The story does
not have any Christian connotation or lesson. The expression is used to describe two choices, neither of which is ideally preferred.

To count both Republican and
Democrat tickets as evil, and some other choice as not evil, but good is a sophomoric misunderstanding of the times, and a profound misunderstanding of scripture.

Barack Obama is flawed.
John McCain is flawed. And,
Chuck Baldwin is flawed.

One would make the choice of Constitution Party candidate Chuck Baldwin not because anyone believes that he would be “sin free” during his term, but that he would, to the best of his ability, govern and pursue policies in alignment with a Christian worldview. Any reasonable person, probably Chuck included, would also agree that Chuck will make a mistake or two while in office, and he may succumb certain sins while in office.

So, then that is a “best choice” decision. In this fallen world, we are often presented with choices that fall short of ideal. Chuck Baldwin is then, really the lesser of three (or more) evils. Each of us, in our sin, creates this kind of environment, either directly or indirectly.

Less than ideal choices to a dilemma many times are the result of a situation that our own sin created. Indirectly, our own sin as humans created a separation between us and God, the result of which is the curse on us and our world, which imperfect options to dilemmas abound.

Use your MINDS. THINK! Don’t just LOVE the Bible, KNOW the Bible. ACCURATELY handle the Word of Truth.

However, it does not change the fact that a vote for anyone but McCain (unless you voted with the green party…which seems unlikely ) is a vote for Obama.

That’s not a fact at all. It’s a myth and not even logical.

“”The steadfast refusal of most Christians to believe God could work a miracle (with our active obedence), and elect a Chuck Baldwin, shows our faith in the Scriptures to be non-existent. “”

I should have said “many”, not “most” above.

Didn’t mean to sound so ‘exclusivist’ – many Christians are waking up to our need to exercise diligence in choosing Godly leaders. But we have far to go……try http://www.IOTConline.com for a ‘study on Christianity & the Law of the Land’ that helps.

Also, It would have been better to have said: “…shows our faith in the Scriptures to be ‘theoretical & disconnected from reality’, rather than ‘non-existent’.

It’s easy to believe in miracles of another time, place & people.

Much harder to believe miracles that require hard duty of us, most always in direct contravention of the spirit of the age & apparent contrary evidence in front of us.

‘Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen……’ Hebrews 11:1

Best Regards,

David B.

Thanks for you most recent comment I agree with you that it is a sad commentary on our modern faith or rather good proof of what we put faith in as a people and a church.

In a previous comment you quoted Chris Ortiz and and said

“While both mainstream America, and Conservative Christians–including the Reformed community–were focused on the gender of the Republican vice-presidential nominee, the Feds moved to nationalize Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Do you have any idea what this means? Do you have any idea what we’re facing economically? Believe you me, when things go South economically, you’ll risk looking foolish and blind with an arm full of Biblical arguments about how a woman cannot serve as a civil magistrate.

Let’s not take our eyes off the ball. I’m not sure why Christian ministries are worrying about tributary issues like the ACLU, or how many founding fathers were Christians. There is really no need to belabor the fact that Sarah Palin should be at home with her children. We should put aside these hot button issues and keep our audiences focused on the real threats to liberty.”

Well I can’t agree with you or Mr Ortiz on this point. If the family is (as Rushdoony argued) the foundational social building block and if we as modern Christians are losing the very battle for our families then those who are fighting to hold the line on orthodox positions of the family are closer to fighting the “real war” than those who are decrying the federal leviathan and all it’s abuses.

As gruesome as that drawing above is, thanks for posting it. We need to see the Truth !

Consider that NEITHER McCain or Obama has the guts, honesty or moral will to openly & boldly oppose this act of murder.

What does this say about out desire to honor Christ & ‘do unto others as we would have done to us’, and to choose leaders who do the same ?

Seriously, the false dilemma of ‘either / or’ (manifest in our “Presidential contest) is a bad joke being played on the church & all of American society.

The steadfast refusal of most Christians to believe God could work a miracle (with our active obedence), and elect a Chuck Baldwin, shows our faith in the Scriptures to be non-existent.

This would be a simple thing compared to most Biblical ‘providential events’ or miracles.

Wasn’t the defeat of Egypt by a bunch of slaves & a mostly discredited (in the eyes of Israel & Egypts court) leader, Moses, totally without precedent, yet it happened ?

Wasn’t the defeat of the British Empire, that ruled the entire world in the 18th century, by the tiny band of Colonials similarly miraculous ?

Absolutely, yet Christian men (and their wives & children) doing their duty was REQUIRED, then God worked the miracle.

God’s judgement is pounding America flat.

Did anyone notice that hurrican IKE smashed into the Florida keys exactly 7 years to the day on the anniversary of 9-11-2001 ?

Now, a week & a half later, America is facing an economic meltdown that many experts admit will make 1929′s depression look tame. Our ‘leaders’ are rushing to nationalize almost all the failing banks & institutions.

We’re just a few weeks away from having a total ‘command economy’ exactly like we excoriated communist Russia for having.

My how the ‘worm has turned’ !!

Seven years to repent of our nations evils, and the (visible) church has learned next to nothing about obedience to God.

And still we think we can play footsie with God’s standards, mock his Covenant, twist his Scriptures, ask for the ‘lesser of two evils’ and receive His blessing ?

Unless and until we in the Church repent of our ways, we will continue to reap judgement by the trainload.

This goes far beyond ‘who we vote for’ but is by no means disconnected from the issue.

They are related, as a ‘low oil presssure’ warning light on your dash is to impending engine failure.

So, let’s not miss the larger issue facing America: Our nation has embraced a Pluralistic ‘god of your choice’ ethic. IOW, we now worship false gods.

The public manifestation of that is “Staism”, or seeing the ‘State’ as the arbiter & source of all authority’.

Probably because most Christians today ignore the Biblical role of Christ as present ‘Prophet, Priest & King’, do we allow the State to usurp His roles.

This is the poverty of modern Evangelicalism.

Obama & McCain are two who both, in their somewhat distinct ways, are priests of the “almighty State’.

McCain craftily uses the language of patriotism to mask his promotion of the State, even now using evanglical terms (without the power of God) to fool the (unwise & untrained) faithful.

The contest is more like “Baal vs Dagon” than anything else.

No, I’m not saying that choosing Chuck Baldwin as President will change this overnight.

I am saying that our refusal to consider voting for a Godly man, despite the apparent odds against it, and our approval of an either overly evil man, Obama, or covertly evil man, McCain, shows our Spiritural & Moral blindness, not to mention our ignorance of the present reign of Christ over all the nations, including America.

Lord, may you open our eyes to Christ’s authority !

Your fellow servant,

David B.

It is well document that Barack Hussein Obama is a public supporter of “partial birth abortions.

If you go to google and type “define:infanticide” the most prevalent definition is “the act of killing an infant”, further if you take a look at the medically certified as correct illustration below from the National Right to Life website you will see clearly why it is no lie to say MR Obama is in favor of infanticide.

We may agree or disagree on many things but here on this blog killing a baby is infanticide whether you agree or not.

Thanks for your patience.