Ron Paul on the separation of church and state

While I have posted frequently about Ron Paul on Facebook, I don’t often bring it to the blog.  However, this quote just breaks all the rules.  I can’t help sharing it.

“The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders’ political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs. Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government’s hostility to religion. The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life.

The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance. Throughout our nation’s history, churches have done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility. Moral and civil individuals are largely governed by their own sense of right and wrong, and hence have little need for external government. This is the real reason the collectivist Left hates religion: Churches as institutions compete with the state for the people’s allegiance, and many devout people put their faith in God before their faith in the state. Knowing this, the secularists wage an ongoing war against religion, chipping away bit by bit at our nation’s Christian heritage.”

~Ron Paul (source)

 

Comments

  1. What a fantastic quote from Ron Paul! I really like a lot of what he stands for and am glad to see his campaign this time around be as successful as it has been.

    I don’t disagree with those who dislike Romney or who see him as a political moderate. He is.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney

    I do see him as being a social conservative, though.

    This article from the Washington Post explains more about that:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/religious-right-now/post/the-social-conservatives-case-for-mitt-romney/2012/04/13/gIQAD4A6ET_blog.html

    And about whether he is a “believer” or not?
    Well, there are many different views on this. I’ll share one more below.

    Pastor Joel Osteen shares in the video linked to below why he sees Romney as a believer, “just like him.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505270_162-57359651/osteen-romney-believer-in-christ-like-me/

    He says:

    “What I see about Governor Romney is that he says, ‘I believe Jesus Christ is the son of God, he’s raised from the dead and he’s my savior.’ I see him as being a believer in Christ, like me.”

    Charlie Rose said, “That’s enough for you?”

    “That’s enough for me,” Osteen said. “There’s differences in all religion. I realize Mormonism is different from Christianity, but you know what, he’s a man of faith and values. And to me, that’s strong.”

  2. i think this is a really interesting quote. And while I would love to see the Christian church and beliefs reflected more in today’s government, I question whether that is really possible anymore. Our country has changed dramatically since our founding fathers and now represents a substantially larger representation of different religions. The reality is that it is not just the President who solely controls the direction of our country and I can hardly see the legislative and judicial branches supporting a movement towards enjoining the church and state. I also wonder what impact that would have on the power of religious control of future presidents? Clearly a big step was taken when President Obama was elected in regards to race and I doubt it’s that far off that we see a non-believer elected – obviously the possibility is already out there with Romney. If the separation of the church and state were to be minimalized what’s to say that the Christian churches beliefs and morals would dominate? Sure we cannot say that our country would change dramatically to adhere to Mormon/Muslim/Jewish laws, but I would rather live in a country that separated church and state than one that was influenced or conformed to a religious doctrine I vehemently opposed.

  3. Thanks for sharing this quote. My husband and I have been strong Ron Paul supporters. No man is perfect, but Mr. Paul has been willing to stand up and say things that nobody else has had the wisdom or courage to say.

  4. I wish that Ron Paul could be our president. Unless God steps in and does His ‘thing’ I do not believe that is possible. He would sure have my vote. That said, I will not vote for Romney. I don’t trust the man as far as I could throw him. I don’t trust most of Washington, but Romney more so. Can not put my finger on why really, just a feeling I have. I do not want Newt either. That man is as two faced as they come. I would not vote him dog catcher.

  5. Hallelujah! So glad you shared! I love Ron Paul, but I hadn’t stumbled on this quote yet! Makes me love him all the more! :)
    That being said this quote is not only in line with the original intentions of our founding fathers, but also Biblical ideas of Church and State. The early Christian church met all those “social” needs that the State is taking responsibility for these days, and that the “collectivist left” is insisting the church never has, and never will meet these needs. Our society is in a shakedown mode where most thigns come from a viewpoint that religion (esp. Christian religion) helps no one, confines everyone and curtails freedom. That law, and civility is absent from tolerance, and that tolerance is letting everyone break the law. So frustrating to raise children in this society. Kind of terrifying too!

  6. Lindsey in AL says:

    So many people argue that the govt HAS to take care of people because the church won’t do it any more. But why doesn’t the church do it? Because the govt has taken over that role. People in and outside the church have come to expect that the most we should do is supplement the *real* provider, Uncle Sam. Have a food bank but require people to be signed up for state insurance first. If a woman needs a place to live when her husband leaves her, call the dept of women and. Hildren. Etc, etc, etc.
    Govt IS the religion of the left and they don’t like competition. Even most conservatives and Christians don’t see that any more, so they don’t recognize that it’s a problem in need of a solution. Frustrating and sad.

  7. This is a great quote! I’ve never thought about it this way. At least never this concisely :) While I agree with almost everything he ever says, is there any hope for him actually influencing this country? A third party never having won an election, splitting the conservative vote… It just all seems so dire sometimes. Why can’t people on the whole see what needs to happen here?
    Great point about reliance on churches and church families trumping government programs and therefore reducing government (or keeping it small in the first place)

    • Ashley, Ron Paul is running as a Republican so there’s no splitting the conservative vote. If he gets the Republican nomination, he *is* the conservative choice, and polls seem to indicate that he has a better shot at defeating Obama than Romney does. That’s probably because many conservatives will refuse to choose the lesser of 2 liberals (Obama vs. Romney) but *would* vote for Ron Paul, as would much of the military, third party supporters, certain Democrats, etc.

      • I want to add too that however unlikely it looks that Ron Paul could win, with God all things are possible!

        • I guess I forgot he was running as a Republican. Probably because the media essentially ignores him and everyone is assuming Romney will be the guy. I’d MUCH rather have Ron Paul on my ballot! I just thought since he was nowhere near Romney in terms of delegates that he didn’t have a chance to be the nominee. Although like Blair points out, with God all things ARE possible! I share lots and lots of the Ron Paul stuff you post on facebook.

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