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4 Moms plan for Thanksgiving: 3 recipes

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4moms35kids 4 Moms plan for Thanksgiving: 3 recipes

OK.  I’m late, but I’m awake now.  I’m showered, and my decaf cocoa-mocha is gone.  If you were here earlier, you probably visited the other 3 moms, and came back to see if I got my act together.  If you saw my earlier post, you can laugh at me.  If you didn’t see it, you’re probably wondering what in the world I’m talking about.  Maybe you should get up earlier.  ;)  That’s a joke, my friends, and only those who were up earlier will see the full irony in it.

At any rate, Cocoa Mocha is a nice way to start any crisp fall morning, including Thanksgiving.

Cocoa Mocha

  • 1 tsp. cocoa powder
  • 2 tsp. sugar
  • 1 tsp. instant coffee (regular or decaf)
  • pinch of salt
  • 1 Tbs. water
  • milk

Combine dry ingredients in a coffee mug.  Stir in water and microwave for 20 seconds.  Fill mug with milk, stirring again to combine.  Microwave to desired drinking temperature.

This year we will be guests in the homes of Perry’s extended family.  We’ll be the out-of-towners, so I don’t know exactly what will be on the menu though I’ve been in the family long enough to be reasonably sure we’ll see all the regulars: turkey, cornbread dressing, green bean casserole, corn, rolls, mashed potatoes, gravy, fruit salad.  We will probably try to provide a few dishes that can be made ahead or prepared easily without presuming upon someone else’s kitchen facilities.

Lately we’ve been canning our own apple pie filling, so I’m thinking we might bring that and use  store-bought crusts to make apple-cranberry pies.  We could also make our homemade cranberry sauce, which has become a tradition over the last few years.  We’ll never go back to the wiggly stuff.   We could do brown-and-serve rolls, though I suspect the road trip would leave them badly smushed.

We really enjoy trying one or two new recipes each Thanksgiving, and although we won’t necessarily be able to serve them on Thanksgiving Day this year I really want to keep doing so.  Here are the first two on my list of new recipes to try.

Pecan Raisin Pie – My sister’s mother-in-law made this for a family gathering, and it was surprisingly delicous: sweet like a pecan pie, but with a subtle fruity flavor and a heavy richness.  Not what you would expect.

  • 2 eggs, beaten
  • 1 cup sugar
  • 6 Tbs. butter, melted
  • 1/4 cup milk
  • 1 cup raisins
  • 1 cup chopped pecans

Combine all ingredients and pour into a 9″ unbaked pie shell.  Bake 40-45 minutes at 350.


Cranberry Orange Relish – I had this once when I was about 14 and have planned to make it myself ever since.  The recipe looks very simple.  I’d say it’s time to quit procrastinating and really do it this year.  I’ll bet we could make it ahead of time and take with us. What do you think?

  • 12 oz. cranberries
  • 1 whole orange
  • 3/4 – 1 cup sugar

Rinse and sort cranberries, culling the bad ones.  Wash orange.  Cut in quarters and remove seeds but do not peel.  Grind or finely chop orange and cranberries.  (A food processor is usually recommended, though it can be done with a hand chopper.  I’ll be using my tiny little electric chopper and doing it in several small batches.)  Add sugar, adjusting to taste if desired.  Refrigerate at least 2 hours before serving.

Do you have a favorite recipe you’d like to suggest for us?

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Cooking oils

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A friend has asked me to sum up my discoveries and decisions about cooking oils now that I’ve received advice and answers from so many of you.

So here’s where we stand:

We have given up the [super cheap] soybean/canola/corn oil and resigned ourselves to a more expensive option.

For most uncooked uses and savory baking – cheesy garlic biscuits and pizza crust to name two – we’ll be using olive oil.  I know olive oil isn’t ideal for baking, but I’m really learning to appreciate the flavor in savory goods.  For the time being, I’m getting extra light olive oil from Costco, where it costs about $18 for 4 liters.  We might switch to extra virgin for some uses if we learn to really enjoy the much stronger flavor.  The organic extra virgin olive oil is about $10/liter at Costco.

For sweet baking, we’re currently using butter and/or grapeseed oil, which I also get from Costco, though WalMart is actually cheaper on butter lately.  Go figure.  The grapeseed is less expensive than olive oil and has a more neutral flavor, though I hear it’s processed with harmful chemicals.  As we learn more, we might decide to get rid of this option, replacing it with extra light olive oil where we can disguise the flavor and coconut oil where we can’t.  At this point, it’s preferable to the corn/soy/canola that we had been using.

And…coconut oil.  After some careful consideration, we decided to bite the bullet and buy a 5 gallon bucket of expeller pressed coconut oil.  This is not virgin, but is mechanically refined without harmful chemicals.  I was able to get a great deal on this from Marci at the Amazing Graze General Store.  She doesn’t advertise coconut oil in her store, but will make you a good deal if you contact her.

This coconut oil will fill our occasional need for shortening, and also replace some of the butter and grapeseed oil we use.  I’m looking forward to learning more about coconut oil.

What’s next in our journey toward a better diet?  I don’t know.  If you could make one change in your family’s current diet, what would it be?  What have you done already?

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Pressure canning

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We’ve been canning up a storm since my new pressure canner arrived!  Since we don’t grow our own foods, we’re using it mainly to create our own convenience foods.  So far we’ve done preseasoned fajita chicken, pinto beans, black beans, chili, apple pie filling, jalapeno relish, and pizza sauce.

I posted over on Frugal Hacks about canning raw meat – maybe you’d like pop over and see how easy it is?

How to can raw meat in a flash

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4 Moms talk food: my top 10 breakfast list

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4moms35kids 4 Moms talk food: my top 10 breakfast list Today we’re going to talk about breakfast.  Ugh.  I am not a morning person.  Twenty years ago?  Morning person.  Now?  Not.

Just so we’re clear.

Moving on…

Breakfast in our house needs to be high protein, because while we do enjoy breakfast, we don’t want to celebrate it twice in the same hour.  It also needs to be fast and easy so we don’t look up halfway through the meal and realize we were actually eating lunch.

Below are ten of our favorites.  Some are higher in protein than others but most have at least a moderate amount.  Those that don’t are usually supplemented with a glass of milk.

If you were a fly on the wall in our house – and you’d be in good company, because we’ve had more than our share of flies this summer – here’s what you might see us eat on an average sort of morning:

Top 10 Breakfasts

  1. Homemade granola, made with lots of nuts to pump up the protein.  I also sometimes add TVP, though I might reconsider since most soy sold in the US is genetically modified.
  2. Banana bread with peanut butter.  I love walnuts in banana bread but the kids don’t, so we go through a lot of peanut butter.
  3. Egg/cheese burritos, with or without a smidgin of homemade sausage.
  4. Pancakes, often with peanut butter, always with milk.  Not as high in protein as I’d like, but a favorite that the kids love to make.
  5. Fried egg sandwiches on whole wheat bread, an old favorite that we seem to have forgotten of late.
  6. Baked oatmeal.  This has several eggs to boost the modest protein found in oats, and of course it’s served with milk.
  7. Green smoothies, enjoyed by Perry and me nearly every morning now.  We now use half a frozen banana plus 1 serving of fruit (half an apple and a few chunks of cantaloupe or a small handful of grapes, for example), 3 cups spinach, and 8-12 oz. of kefir.  Watch for a post soon on how we do these!  Several of the children like green smoothies too, though I’ve never tried to serve it as breakfast for everyone.
  8. Breakfast in a bowl: grits with eggs, sausage and cheese stirred in.  A popular cold-weather breakfast.
  9. Biscuits and sausage gravy, often served with a side of scrambled eggs, and possibly with grits and sausage patties.  You won’t see this often on a weekday.  It’s a Saturday brunch if there ever was one.
  10. Anything made by my husband.  It’s guaranteed to have plenty of meat, so you know it’s high in protein.

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    Cooking oil choices and questions

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    First of all, I have to say that I am impressed.  So many of you are a wealth of knowledge about cooking oils!  Thanks for all the input.   You’ve given me some new questions and plenty of (warning: bad pun ahead) food for thought.

    Here’s a summary of what we’re doing and my new questions.  I hope you help answer some of them.

    butter 300x164 Cooking oil choices and questionsButter:

    We have never used margarine in our house.  It’s always been butter.  I’ll be using it more than ever in baking now.  That’s an easy change to make.  It will be more expensive than vegetable oil, but not prohibitively so.

    Question: How concerned should we be about hormones in the butter?

    grapeseed 200x300 Cooking oil choices and questionsGrapeseed oil:

    We’re experimenting with grapeseed oil in baking as well.  In spite of the greenish tinge, it hasn’t turned any baked goods green yet and we don’t notice a change in flavor at all.  It’s roughly the same price as butter right now at Costco.

    Question: Are there any advantages to using grapeseed oil over butter?  Is grapeseed oil good for making mayo?

    olives 200x300 Cooking oil choices and questionsOlive oil:

    We’re also experimenting with olive oil.  I understand that it doesn’t respond well to high heat so we should use it primarily for uncooked purposes, and maybe for light sauteeing.  We have used it in cheesy garlic biscuits and plan to use it in pizza crust as well in spite of the fact that it doesn’t seem to be recommended for cooking.

    Questions: What are the benefits of extra virgin?  Is it bad to use olive oil in baked goods, or just less than ideal?  Some say olive oil separates when used in mayo; are there tips to avoid that problem?

    coconut 200x300 Cooking oil choices and questionsCoconut oil:

    I have a small container of refined stuff from WalMart.  I plan to add a small spoonful to our morning green smoothies, but I’m always so groggy I forget.   I would also like to try it as a substitute for shortening, which we really don’t use often.

    Questions: If I don’t buy unrefined, are all health benefits lost?  Does it become just another saturated fat, or is it still a better choice than most?

    Shelf life:

    I have no problem buying in bulk on two conditions: the price is right, and shelf life allows it.

    Questions: What is the shelf life of coconut oil, both refined and unrefined?  What about olive oil?  Can we expect anything like a normal shelf life in our south Texas climate?

    oils 300x200 Cooking oil choices and questionsCost Comparison:

    I did a quick cost comparison to help wrap my mind around the options, and here’s what I found.  I’m assuming that 1 gallon = 7 pounds (not 8, like water).

    The prices below are rounded to the nearest dollar, recorded to the best of my memory, and include shipping if the source is online.   If you live outside of Texas, you’ll probably find that your own cost varies significantly.

    If you’re a perfectionist, you’ll probably find plenty to complain about in my list below.  If you’re just curious about quick ‘n’ dirty cost comparison in a general sort of way, read on.

    • Coconut oil (unrefined,5 gallons from Mountain Rose): $42/gallon
    • Olive oil, extra virgin (2L from Costco): $19/gallon
    • Butter (4 lbs. from Costco): $18/gallon
    • Olive oil, extra light (4L from Costco): $17/gallon
    • Grapeseed oil (2L from Costco): $13/gallon
    • Coconut oil (refined, 50 lbs. from Soaper’s Choice): $13/gallon
    • Vegetable/corn/canola/soybean oil (5L from Costco): $5/gallon

    Have you found better prices than these, local or otherwise?  Remember to factor in shipping if you’re buying online.  If so, I would love to know your source!

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    Cooking oil: your advice?

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    We’re making some changes in our diet.  We already cook from scratch, and have eliminated nearly all canned and packaged goods.

    Now we’re working on cutting down or getting rid of genetically modified foods.  I’m not an alarmist – far from it – but the alarms were going off when I read several articles recently about the possible dangers of genetically modified foods.  My understanding is that corn and soy are the two big ones, and this means we need to change our cooking oil.

    Last time I went shopping, instead of grabbing another 5 liter jug of Whatever’s Cheap, I bought some extra virgin olive oil and some grapeseed oil.  I also bought a small container of coconut oil.  It’s not organic or otherwise special, unless you count the price.  It wasn’t cheap, but I know the good stuff costs far more.

    If you’ve given up the corn, canola or generic vegetable oil, would you care to tell us a bit about your journey?  What did you try, what do you use now, and what did you learn along the way?  Do you use different oils for different purposes?  How important do you think it is to buy organic?

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    I have a canner. I AM a canner.

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    After visiting my grandparents, I came home with a deep desire to start canning.  The first thing I did was buy a Presto 1781 23-Quart Aluminum Pressure Cooker/Canner I have a canner.  I AM a canner. from Amazon – after I talked to hubby and we assured each other that this wasn’t just a passing fancy.  I owned a smaller pressure cooker many years ago and actually used it, so we were reasonably confident that this would be a well-loved gadget, both as a cooker and a canner.

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    A water bath canner might be a better choice for some, but I went with the pressure cooker for 4 reasons:

    1. The inexpensive water bath canners weren’t approved for use on a glass-top range like ours.  Those that were approved cost nearly as much as the pressure canners.
    2. I wanted to be able to can low-acid foods, beginning with pinto and black beans, but certainly not stopping there!
    3. I looked forward to use it for cooking again.  Did you know dry beans cook in 3-6 minutes?
    4. I had enough Swagbucks to pay for it.  :)

    The canner arrived in just 2 business days (with free shipping, no less!) and with just a few more supplies, we were ready to get started.

    Our trusty old apple peeler/corer/slicer made short work of 20 lbs. of apples.  We did another 10 lbs. for crockpot applesauce.

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    20 lbs. filled an 8 quart stockpot and a 4 quart pot to the brim.

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    We stirred in a mixture of sugar, flour, lemon juice, a sprinkle of salt, and LOTS of cinnamon.

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    After cooking them just enough to thoroughly heat the liquid and soften the apples, we ladelled  the mixture into hot sterilized jars.  We had enough to fill 7 quarts, plus one for the fridge.  We’ll use that one for a pie tonight.

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    We worked out the air bubbles and left 1/2″ of headspace, then processed according to the directions.  This time, I used the pressure cooker as a water bath canner.  It can be used either way.  I love that!

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    Later that day, we turned a huge gallon-sized can of tomato paste into seasoned pizza/spaghetti sauce.   We may or may not add meat when we serve it, depending on whether it’s lunch or dinner.

    Aren’t they beautiful?

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    The next day I did 4 quarts and 7 pints of pinto beans and black beans, all at the same time.  We’re trying the first one in our taco salad tonight, and it turned out perfect!

    Now the girls say I’m obsessed.  I’m even canning animal crackers.  OK, so I didn’t process them, but a gallon pickle jar is perfect for holding them.

    But I’m finally finding a use – or multiple uses – for the jars that have filled the dark recesses of my container cabinet for so long.  I was tickled to stumble across these links today:

    What about you?  Do you can?  How many other uses have you found for jars, Mason or otherwise?

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    Green smoothies

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    In our quest for a better diet, Perry surprised me by expressing interest in green smoothies.  [Who are you, and what have you done with my husband?]

    Today I found some great deals on a wide variety of fruits, grabbed a big bag of fresh spinach from Costco, and rushed home to experiment on the children. I want this to work, so we’ll offer Perry his first smoothie after we’ve worked out some of the bumps.

    After a brief phone consultation with a former green smoothie user, I decided to start with something like this:

    Green Smoothie, take 1

    • 2 cups raw spinach
    • 1/2 cup cold water
    • 2 ripe bananas
    • 2 apples, quartered
    • 6 strawberries
    • 1 1/2 cups kefir
    • 1/2 cup grapes

    Puree spinach and water in blender (this proved easier said than done.  after a few tries I just moved on).  Add remaining ingredients and blend on high until smooth.

    This went over surprisingly well, especially after I explained that the grayish green sludge would taste like neither spinach nor sludge.

    For the second round, I tried something a little simpler.  I’m not likely to have most of those fruits on hand regularly, so I tried something more representative of our normal inventory.

    Green Smoothie, take 2

    • 1 1/2 cups raw spinach
    • 1 1/2 cups kefir
    • 1/2 tray ice cubes (6-8)
    • 2 ripe bananas
    • 2 apples, quartered

    This was better.  It was prettier, simpler, and nicely chilled.  We usually keep ripe peeled bananas in the freezer, and I think these will make a very nice addition to our next green smoothie.  I’m storing the spinach in the freezer too, to extend its very short shelf life.

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    Challah Bread recipe

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    I could tell you that this recipe is special to us because a sweet lady at church makes it every week for communion bread, and it would be true.  But it wouldn’t be the whole truth.

    The rest of the story is just this:  it’s special to us because it’s downright delicious!  It’s moist and soft and fluffy, if you don’t get in a hurry while it’s rising.  It’s also just a little bit sweet and tastes a lot like doughnuts.

    9yo Becca makes it for us often, and others in our house make it occasionally.  No matter who makes it, there is always great rejoicing.  Tonight we’re making the small rolls for egg salad sandwiches at the church fellowship meal tomorrow.  We’re using homegrown eggs and homemade mayonnaise.  Mmmm.

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    Challah Bread

    makes 2 braided loaves, 16 large (hamburger sized) buns, or 32 small rolls.

    • 2 eggs
    • 6 TBSP butter ( cut up, softened)
    • 1 1/2 cups very warm water
    • 2 1/2 tsp salt
    • 6 TBSP sugar
    • 4 tsp yeast

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    • 6 cups flour

    Combine all ingredients except flour.  Let sit for 10 minutes or until yeast is active and bubbling.  Add flour 1 cup at a time, mixing with a dough hook or stirring and kneading by hand, until dough forms a ball.  Cover and let rise until double, about 45 minutes.

    Punch down, let rest 10 minutes, and shape as desired.  Let rise until double, 20-40 minutes.  Brush with a mixture of 1 egg yolk plus 1 Tbs water.

    Bake braided loaves in preheated the oven at 375 degrees for 15 minutes.  Cover with foil and bake another 15 minutes.  Bake rolls for 15-20 minutes, depending on size.

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    Potluck protocol and recipes

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    My friend the Deputyheadmistress is hosting a linky for Potluck Saturday.  Here I am a day late and a recipe short, but the linky is open for 4 more days so we still have time.

    I couldn’t help but giggle just a little at her request that recipes be large enough to feed at least 8, since that wouldn’t even go once around our table, but she is in the same boat so I know she won’t take exception at my snickering.  When we cook for potlucks, we generally aim for 15-20 servings.

    We love potlucks and have hosted them nearly weekly for years.  Our church also has a potluck meal after the worship service every week.  We love the additional fellowship and I believe our church body is exceptionally close because of this tradition.

    Since there is often some confusion about how much to bring or how many dishes, let me just share my own rule of thumb: regardless of how many dishes we bring, we try to bring enough food so that our entire family could make a meal of it and still have leftovers.

    This means that if we’re only bringing a main dish or a vegetable or a dessert, we need to bring enough that our family could fill up on nothing but our main dish or creamed corn or dessert and still have some left to share.  If we bring 2 or 3 dishes, we will bring quantities closer to what we normally prepare at home since that would be enough for us to fill up and still have leftovers.

    We also try to bring “normal” foods.  These are not necessarily common foods, but are foods that we think will have wide appeal.  Potluck is not the time to try out your new Lebanese casserole.  We find that Mexican food goes over very well and we love it, so it’s very nearly a staple for us at potlucks.   Mexican casserole, taco salad, and enchiladas all go over well.  Last Sunday, we took the electric griddle and Deanna cooked fresh hot bean-and-cheese quesadillas.  She was everyone’s hero.  :)

    Creamed Corn (20 servings)

    • 1/2 cup butter
    • 1/2 cup flour
    • 3 cups milk (heavy cream or half & half is better, but we rarely have these on hand)
    • 2 Tbs. sugar
    • 6 cans corn, drained
    • salt and pepper to taste

    First make a thick white sauce: melt butter over medium heat in a 4 quart saucepan.  Stir in flour to form a thick paste.  Cook and stir briefly to ensure that all flour is thoroughly moistened.  Whisk in milk.  Cook and stir until thickened.

    Combine sauce, sugar, corn, and salt and pepper and heat thoroughly.  You can also heat or keep warm on low in a slow cooker.

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    Homemade Catalina salad dressing

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    Not the healthiest, but certainly better than what you buy in a bottle and tastes just as good or better.  We already cut the sugar down but you’ll probably want to experiment with even less.  I keep meaning to try this recipe with diluted tomato paste instead of ketchup but haven’t done it yet.  Let me know if you do!

    Catalina salad dressing

    • 1/2 cup sugar
    • 2 tsp. salt
    • 1/2 tsp. paprika
    • 1/2 tsp. dry mustard
    • 1/2 tsp. chili powder
    • 1/2 tsp. onion powder
    • 1/2 cup vinegar
    • 2/3 cup ketchup
    • 1/2 cup oil

    Just shake together in a jar and store in the refrigerator.  Easy, peasy.  Never run out of catalina again!

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    Custard in an electric roaster

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    This has become a favorite in our house now that we have a near-endless supply of eggs from our 20 hens.  It’s a high-protein breakfast, a nutritious snack, and a great way to use large quantities of eggs.  I make at least 4 or 5 pans/week.

    We use an electric roaster during warm weather to do much of our cooking outdoors.  I recently figured out that this is a great way to do a big dish of custard too, so the instructions below describe how we make custard in our 18 quart electric roaster.

    Baked Custard

    serves 8-10

    • 12 eggs
    • 1/2 – 1 cup sugar (I have gradually cut ours down to 1/2 cup.  This is just sweet enough for us.)
    • 2 tsp. vanilla
    • 4 cups milk (for richer custard, use a combination of milk and cream or evaporated milk)
    • nutmeg

    Heat 3 quarts of water to boiling, and pour into your electric roaster.  Heat roaster 325.

    Meanwhile, heat milk in the microwave.  About 4 minutes is right for ours.  This step is not necessary but your custard will cook much faster if you start with hot milk.

    Beat eggs in a large mixing bowl.  Beat in vanilla, then sugar.  Stir in hot milk until combined.  Pour into 9×13 and sprinkle with nutmeg.

    Use your roaster rack to lower custard into roaster.  Watch water level as you lower it to be sure it’s not high enough to flow into custard.  Cover and bake 60-90 minutes, until center is set.

    Serve warm or chilled.

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    4 Moms 35 Kids: Cooking for a Crowd

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    This is the big day!  All 4 of us will be sharing one big linky event.  Share your Cooking for a Crowd recipe on one of our blogs and the link will show up on all 4 blogs:  The Common Room, Smockity Frocks, Raising Olives, and here on Life in a Shoe.

    First things first.  In my last 4 Moms post, I promised you recipes for some of our cooked-from-scratch foods.  Here are the 3 most-requested.  Let me know if I missed one that you wanted.

    Vanilla Pudding

    I’ve cut down the sugar in this recipe so we can occasionally eat it for breakfast.  Last week, this and 2 loaves of fresh whole wheat bread served as an emergency dinner when regular dinner prep hit an unexpected bump.

    Serves a dozen 1950′s housewives or 6 Coghlans.  We double this.

    • 1/2 cup flour or 1/4 cup cornstarch (Cornstarch will give you a smoother pudding but I prefer flour because we’re often out of cornstarch.  That does make it a little hard to use cornstarch, you know?)
    • 1/2  - 3/4 cup sugar
    • 4 1/2 cups milk
    • 6 beaten egg yolks (add extra for richness, or if your chickens got ahead of you)
    • 2 Tbs. butter
    • 2 tsp. vanilla

    Combine flour and sugar in a large saucepan.  Stir in milk.  Cook, stirring constantly, over medium heat until thickened.  Remove from heat.  Stir 1-2 cups of hot milk mixture gradually into egg yolks, then stir egg yolk mixture back into saucepan with remaining milk mixture.

    Cook and stir over medium heat until mixture returns to a gentle boil.  Cook and stir for 2 minutes.  Cool slightly and add butter and vanilla.  Serve warm or chilled.  (Lay plastic wrap on surface to prevent a skin from forming as it cools.)

    Whole Wheat Bread

    Makes 3 soft light loaves that even whole-wheat-haters will love.  We use a 6 qt. Kitchenaid stand mixer to make this effortless.

    • 4 cups warm water
    • 3 Tbs. yeast
    • 1 Tbs. salt
    • 1/2 cup honey
    • 1/2 cup oil
    • whole wheat flour (we grind 9 cups of hard white wheat berries)

    Combine all ingredients except flour in large mixing bowl.  Let sit 10-20 minutes, until yeast foams and looks alive.  Use dough hook to add flour 1 cup at a time until mixture cleans sides of bowl.

    Continue mixing with dough hook for 5 more minutes.  Dough may begin to look sticky again, but do not add more flour.

    Cover and let rise 20-60 minutes in mixing bowl, until you look at it from across the room and panic because you totally forgot you were making bread.   Punch down dough and let it rest for another 10 minutes to make it easier to handle.  You’ll probably forget again, but that’s ok.  Your loaves will just rise a little faster.

    On a lightly oiled countertop, divide dough into 3 equal portions.  Flatten each into a rectangle and roll up into a loaf shape.  Pinch to seal ends and place in an oiled loaf pan.

    Let rise until double, about 30 minutes.  Try not to forget this time.  Maybe you’d better set a timer.

    Bake 25 minutes at 350 degrees.  Cool 10 minutes in pans, then 10 minutes on rack.  Wrap while still warm to keep moist, if there’s any left.

    Red Enchilada Sauce

    I had Deanna measure the ingredients the last time she made this, but it’s the first time we’ve ever measured them.  Feel free to freestyle it, and definitely tweak the seasonings to please your family’s palate.  Don’t be scared.  It’s really just a basic white sauce with a mexican twist.

    Makes enough sauce for a 9×13 pan of enchiladas.  We double this.

    • 2 cloves garlic, minced
    • 1/2 onion, diced
    • 1/4 cup butter
    • 1/3 cup flour
    • 1 tsp. salt
    • 1/2 tsp. black pepper
    • 1-2 tsp. chili powder
    • 2 1/2  cups milk
    • 1 sm. can tomato paste (6 oz?)

    Saute garlic and onion in butter until onion is soft.  Stir in flour and seasonings to make a thick paste.  Whisk in milk and cook a couple of minutes until smooth and thickened.  Add tomato paste and stir until smooth.   Simmer a bit to blend flavors, stirring occasionally.  Use under, inside and on top of your enchiladas, with plenty of cheese.


    And now the best part: We’ve been counting down to the recipe swap, and here it is!  Link up, ladies!

    Please be sure you link to an individual post on your blog (not the homepage) and your page needs to link back to one this week’s 4 Moms posts.


    1. Smockity Frocks
    2. Raising Olives – Lentil Chili – Cranberry Roast – Stroganoff
    3. Raising Arrows {Lunch for a Bunch}
    4. Phoebe @ GettingFreedom(Baked Beans for a Crowd))
    5. Amy @ Finer Things (Cavatini and more)
    6. Anita (cooking for a crowd or the freezer)
    7. DHM, cooking for a crowd
    8. Cyndi L. (Inside out turkey cheese burgers)
    9. KimC (pudding, bread, enchilada sauce)
    10. Cooking for the multitudes (Balancing Beauty/Bedlam)
    11. Linda @ Gluten-Free Homemaker (Mexican Lasagna)
    12. Plymouth Rock Ranch (Whole Wheat Pumpkin Spice Waffles)
    13. Betty-
    14. Alicia’s Homemaking–Bean and Sausage Stew
    15. Milehimama (Tips to stretch food and Swiss Steak)
    16. HoosierHomemade{Homemade Meatballs}
    17. Girls and sunflowers (dressing for the masses!)
    18. Gwen T
    19. Raising a Quiverfull (Shredded pork tacos)
    20. Empty the Pantry Casserole
    21. Big pot of yummy Lentil Stew @ Every Precious Joy
    22. Vickie (Crock Pot Burritos & Lasagna
    23. Amber (Plaza III Soup, Potato-Cheese Soup)
    24. Dewey’s Treehouse (White Vegetable Lasagna)
    25. NerdFamily Food (Chicken, Spinach and Corn Enchiladas)
    26. Angela @ Blissfully Single
    27. Mrs. Hearts
    28. HoosierHomemade{Make-Ahead Meals}
    29. Kitchen Stewardship – 4 kinds of Pasta Salad for a Crowd
    30. Olivia@Of Such is the Kingdom (Pasta Salad)
    31. Jamie@ pursuingtheoldpaths- homemade tomatoe sauce

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    Cooking from scratch: 4 Moms 35 Kids

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    “Cooking from scratch, and how we get it all done.”  That was supposed to be today’s topic, but I think it sounds like 2 entirely different genres.  One is non-fiction.  We actually do it in real life.  The other is a dream (or nightmare) most sane moms give up on about 6 weeks after birthing their first child.  I think we both know which is which.

    Call it intuition, but I have a sneaking suspicion that my 3 compadres don’t claim to get it all done either.  I think we all breathe a sigh of relief each Thursday when we read each others’ posts and see how alike we actually are.  Maybe we’re all secretly afraid that we have a supermom in our midst who is going to make us look bad.  Or maybe I should speak for myself and stop projecting my own fears onto others around me.  Another possibility: maybe I should remember to write these posts earlier in the day so I don’t say silly things and wind up sounding punch-drunk.

    My 3 Amigas who cook from scratch:

    What we cook from scratch:

    We cook from scratch both to save money and to keep our diet a bit healthier.  This doesn’t mean we don’t use white flour or white sugar, but it does mean that I can pronounce the names of the ingredients in my recipes.

    As I mentioned in an earlier 4 Moms post, cooking from scratch also simplifies my grocery shopping since I just need to keep the staples well stocked instead of buying and storing each prepackaged item separately.

    What follows is a brief and incomplete list of items that we often or always make from scratch rather than buying prepared.

    • Bread – Usually whole wheat, though we also enjoy Challah Braids.   We make our wheat bread 3 loaves at a time in a big mixer, so it’s a relatively quick job twice a week – or less, if we eat a lot of tortillas.  This is San Antonio, after all.
    • Biscuits - The dough lumps in a cardboard tube sometimes satisfy a certain craving for junk food and adventure, but they bear very little resemblance to the real thing, which is surprisingly quick and easy to whip up.
    • Pancakes – My girls laugh at the thought of buying pancake mix.  Is it really so hard to measure and stir flour, salt, baking powder and sugar?  The 8yo has been making pancakes from scratch since she was 6.
    • Other quick breads – Muffins, cornbread, and other quick (non-yeast) breads are so easy to make from scratch!
    • Pizza - Again, we do buy freezer pizzas once in a great while but we just don’t consider those to be “real” pizza.  We love our homemade version and make it without fail every Friday.
    • Enchilada sauce – My sister-in-law’s recipe, roughly.  Her recipes only exist in rough form.
    • Refried beans – A staple here, and so easy to make from scratch.  Just cook ‘em good and soft in the crock pot, then smush with some of the cooking liquid and desired seasonings.  No need to really fry them again as the name would suggest.
    • Macaroni and cheese –  My older cooks have discovered the charm and simplicity of homemade mac-n-cheese.  I don’t think we’ll ever go back to that fakey-orange powder from the box.  Ugh.
    • Pudding – A bit time-consuming, but when you’ve had this from scratch a few times, the instant boxed variety will stop tasting like real food.  Bonus: you can control the level of sweetness.  With less sugar and some extra eggs, pudding can be a nutritious breakfast.
    • Cocoa - It’s no trouble at all to mix up a mug or a whole pot from scratch.  Since there’s only a few ingredients we often don’t bother with a mix, just measuring out the ingredients as we need them.  Why pay for a premade mix that’s far too sweet and costs two or three times as much?
    • Any rice/potato/pasta dish –  Do you have any idea how many of those little packages it would take to feed us?
    • Cake – The texture of a homemade cake is different, but we’ve come to appreciate this difference as the taste of real food.
    • Brownies -  Although I admit the boxed varieties can be pretty good, I love my recipe and have no desire to cook from a box of powder.
    • Cookies – Like pizza, we buy packaged cookies once in a long time, but we just don’t consider them to be real cookies.  Real ones are mixed in a bowl, finished in the oven, and eaten while still warm.
    • Sausage - Since we perfected our seasoning, I can hardly bear the thought of going back to the store-bought tubes of breakfast sausage.  Even the good brands now seem second-best, and the cheap brands are less appealing than ever.
    • Salad dressing – Homemade salad dressings are new to us, but surprisingly easy, cheap, and another good way to get rid of long lists of unpronounceable ingredients.
    • Rice, oats, iced tea – What do these have in common?  Instant or quick varieties of each are available and widely used.  We just make them the old-fashioned way.  It’s not really harder to cook oats for 5-10 minutes than 1 or 3 minutes.
    • Granola - This is our new substitute for our summertime breakfast cereal habit.  Easy, flexible, nutritious and delicious!  btw, thanks to all our readers who contributed granola recipes and tips in the comments on that post.  We’re enjoying new variations of granola every time we make it!

    I’m sure I’ve forgotten plenty of foods that could go on the list; the more we cook from scratch, the more deeply ingrained the habit becomes and we forget that many people buy a mix for the recipe that we make from memory.

    There are other items that I would love to add to my list this year:

    • Tortillas – We have a small press, but the results just aren’t thin or big enough to wrap around a significant amount of filling.  If we want to eat homemade tortillas, we’ll have to resign ourselves to rolling them by hand.  Did I mention we eat a LOT of tortillas?  They’re cheap, fresh and plentiful here.  It’s hard to get motivated to do these at home.  Can you hear me rationalizing and complaining already?  Not a good sign.
    • Salad dressing – I would like to phase out the store-bought varieties entirely.
    • Mayonnaise – I may have an uprising on my hands if I get pushy about this one, but we always seem to run out of mayo at the worst times.  It would be nice to be able to whip up a batch rather than add a $3 jar of greasy goop to the grocery list.
    • Cream soups – We have nearly quit buying and using these already in favor of simple white sauce, but I would like to make it official.
    • Pancake syrup – just because.  Why buy it when we can make it with ingredients we already keep on hand?
    • Pasta – I have no illusions about making all of our pasta from scratch, but would like to do some. Lasagne noodles would be a good place to start since they’re so big.  We wouldn’t have to make 800 for a single meal, like little egg noodles or spaghetti.
    • Spaghetti sauce – I assume it’s cheaper to make this from canned tomato paste rather than buying the premade sauce?  I also like the idea of knowing and controlling my ingredients.  We might try this soon since we use spaghetti sauce on our pizza every week.

    What’s on your list?  What do you hope to add to your list this year?  Do you have a favorite recipe to contribute to my wishlist for this year?


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    Eggs: a lesson in life and death

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    We have some broody chickens in our hen house.  The Buff Orpingtons in particular think they are ready to be mothers, but they invariably let others have turns in their chosen nesting box, and the result is 18-24 eggs under one hen in the course of 2 days, far more than she can hope to hatch out.

    We’ve wasted a lot of eggs this way, mostly when the girls decide without telling me to leave the eggs under one hen.  Usually I catch on within a day or two, when our egg production drops to half of normal because half of the hens are laying in the one box where the eggs aren’t being gathered.

    This morning I found 16 eggs under a cranky buff.  I brought them in and not knowing just how old they were, I decided to make custard right away.  I would crack them one by one into a coffee mug and any eggs that showed signs of germination would go right to the dogs.

    I cracked 9 warm eggs, one by one.  Six were fit for custard and 3 with small spots of blood went to the dogs.

    The next egg held a lot of blood and a tiny chick embryo.  Disgusting, but fascinating.  We fished it out with a fork and examined it.  There were the beginnings of tiny eyes, and what we thought looked like a spinal cord.  We all looked, then tossed it in the dog dish.

    A few more eggs went into the custard bowl, and then it happened.

    I cracked open an egg and as the yolk slid into the mug I found another embryo nestled in the bottom of the shell – but this one was slightly more developed.  There was one other difference: this one was quite obviously alive.  This one had a beating heart.

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    I watched for a moment, trapped somewhere between fascination and horror, then called the girls over to see.  The heart kept beating.  The little curled-up baby chick was smaller than a dime, with dark eyes the size of matchheads and tiny buds where his legs and wings would be, but his heart beat clear and strong.  We watched the minutes tick by.  It kept beating, and beating, and beating.  He lay in a puddle of egg white in half of his egg shell, curling occasionally, and his tiny heart beat on.  The Boy asked me why we couldn’t just give him back to his mom.  Eventually, the children moved on to other activities.  After 2 hours, the tiny heart was still beating, and finally somebody ended it.

    We eat eggs every day, and we eat meat.  We all know and understand that animals die for us, but this was different somehow.  We wanted to eat the egg before the chick began growing or let it hatch and grow into a chicken.  It hurt and horrified us to waste the life and death of one of God’s creatures, even such a tiny one.  The girls blamed each other for not gathering the eggs soon enough, and some rushed to put the broody hen into a separate cage with her own nesting box where she could work on hatching out the remaining eggs.

    Chick embryo development, day by day

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