Once more because we need to hear it.

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My first ever live radio interview

radioLast month when we were hunting down in south Texas I had the (first in my life) chance to be a guest on a live talk ration show. My good friend Adam McManus – the local Christian Radio firebrand who hosts a show on KSLR 630 am in San Antonio – hosted me to get my opinion on an article where a liberal goofball called me irresponsible 😉. Not really, but he did say,

I think we will work our way towards a position that says that having more than two children is irresponsible. It is the ghost at the table. We have all these big issues that everybody is looking at and then you don’t really hear anyone say the “p” word.

Naturally I was happy to oblige, since I know a thing or two about having more than 2 kids.

Well almost happy.

Remember I told you that I was in south Texas deer hunting?  Well, on this particular afternoon I was guiding instead of hunting.  I was not going to take the call but the young man I was guiding insisted that I take the call – regardless of what it did to his hunt.

SO I called and spoke rather softly 🙂  Most of the time I’m on the phone there are 4 big deer just off to the north of our deer stand.

Anyway I want to share the interview with you – Adam was kind enough to send me a copy so without further ado here it is:

My radio interview (click to listen)

Adam McManus on KSLR 630 AM

Adam on KSLR 630 AM

You can hear Adam’s show  “Take a Stand” every day ONLINE if you don’t live near San Antonio. Just go to KSLR.com and he is right there on the front page. You can also go to Adam McManus blog or email him at adam – at – kslr.com and you will receive his daily email action alerts and program notes. I’ve been a subscriber for over 5 years now. Very useful and very informative. It’s a great way to be notified of issues you need to call your Federal Representatives about.

Adam had another segment on February 18th about the weird (and I believe inappropriate) emotional attachments that are formed in the modern workplace. You can read a great article on his blog about this title “KSLR LISTENER & VISION FORUM BOARD MEMBER DON HART RESPONDS TO THE ADAM McMANUS SHOW SEGMENT ON “WORK SPOUSES”

Definitely worth a read.

The gender-bending Palins

Food for thought from World Net Daily.

How ironic that Christian conservatives rightly faulting Obama as a socialist so readily applaud Palin whose feminist views, whether realized or not, share much in common with Marxism.

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Also check out this humdinger of a message from Pastor Joe Morecraft entitled “Women Civil Magistrates?”

Evening round up

My friends the Brown family at Ketocton Baptists have provided a thought provoking read on feminism from a rather un-American standpoint.

You see Mrs. Brown is Romanian by birth and grew up in a socialist society.

From the post:

Socialist governments want women in the work force as much as men and the family is a tool of production. Fathers do not provide vision for their children, but rather leave it up to the State. I am often times shocked to see that what was seen as oppression in the Socialist Republic of Romania is called liberty here in America (even among Christians). What really hit home was a comment made by Voddie Baucham [In the film Return of the Daughters]. He said, “I don’t know why we allow ourselves to be poured into the world’s mold…”

Read the rest of the post here.

On Doug’s blog there are insanely cute baby pictures and a hot babe in a blue dress … 🙂

Voddie Baucham’s daughter gives us 10 reasons she doesn’t want to be VP when she grows up.

Carmon Friedrich explains there are Bigger Dangers than Obama this election season,

and last but not least Scott Brown sounds off on Searing the Conscience of the Church”.

EDITED to include Kelly’s post on McCain’s positions. We all remember him, right?  The guy at the top of the ticket – the Big Kauhuna who will actually be making all the decisions that effect Sarah Palin 😉

Voddie Baucham speaks the truth in love

More thoughts on the Mcdonald’s boycott

I as I caught up on some of the comments on my follow-up post on the McDonald’s Boycott I came across the following comment by blogger MInTheGap.  In his followup post he made a few good points I want to interact with, but first his comment:

I always wonder if these things really work– especially with people that are hardened in their ways. McD’s clearly has taken a stand, and believes they’ve taken the right one.

Well, I would point out a few recent boycotts that seem to have worked – Ford and American Girls Doll. I also know of a few that have not seemed to have any effect – the SBC boycott of Disney in the 80’s and 90’s. Incidentally, we did not take part in the Disney boycott because it just wasn’t on the radar for us back then.

The other thing to think about is whether or not this will have the opposite effect. While I’m definitely in the “holiness” camp and not in the “love” camp, this is yet another opportunity for the Enemy to characterize us as unloving.

I radically disagree with this statement or at least the implication that this is a bad thing. God is love AND He is holy; I don’t think the two are necessarily mutually exclusive.  To some extent the fact that we are even having this discussion (is it loving to take a public stand against sin) shows the success of the world to frame the debate. It’s the first card that McDonald’s played – I suspect due to the fact that its Vice President of Communications is a gay man who is also the corporate rep on the board of the NGLCC.  Gay activists are very good at trying to use the politics of guilt and pity for their own ends.

Indeed, we need a positive thing we’re doing instead, and not just a negative thing.

Agreed. I do positive things to combat the sins of our culture all the time. I attend public worship, I tithe, I have family worship, I train my children to read the Bible and pray.  In other words I try to live all of my life (and train my children) to take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. This would include how I treat anyone I meet in person.  See Matthew 5.

We also need to be careful that we do not exaggerate the importance of this one sin. We may all be willing to jump on the bandwagon of boycotting a place that supports homosexuality– but how about those that promote gluttony, gossip, and other immorality.

I’m trying to give you things to think about. I believe homosexuality is one of the latter things that happens to a culture in decline, and it’s something that should be fought against, but we’re hypocrites if we only judge where we will eat based on this one issue.

Well there are certainly things to think about here. Several things come to mind.

1.) In my view God exaggerates the importance of this sin. Romans one makes a couple of points relevant to this.

a.) The act is unnatural (Rom. 1:27)

b.) The particular sin of homosexuality is in itself a judgment for the sins of idolatry (Rom. 1:27) – thus putting it in a unique category.  Not to belabor the point but it is a sign of the decay of a culture because it’s a form of judgment that brings more judgment from the Lord if not repented of. 

2.) You are setting up a false dichotomy if you try to force a choice between boycotting everything and nothing. I might, as the head of my house, choose to commit to certain strategic efforts to force public change on one or more (or no) companies as I see fit before the Lord. This does not make me a hypocrite. You said in a recent post

“How about boycotting the All-You-Can-Eat buffet for allowing or encouraging gluttony?  Any takers?  How about an organization to combat gossip, being a busybody, or invading someone else’s privacy? “

As for gossip I direct you to the badge in my sidebar 😉  Back to your comment:

We’re all sinners– some saved by grace. We need to be praying and working to bring people to repentance. This is more important than worrying about buying a burger from a specific place.

Here is the heart of the matter for me.  See, an all-you-can-eat buffet is not actively promoting gluttony in the public sphere the way the NGLCC is.  I see the push to normalize homosexual behavior in our culture as the leading front (or one of them) in the culture wars. It’s at the heart of the attack against the Biblical family, and is being used to chip away, in our culture, at the fundamental social unit in society – the family – by chipping away at  the perceived differences between the genders and their roles.

No one is denying that we need to work for repentance and faith in those who do not know Christ.  When you say “This is more important than worrying about buying a burger from a specific place,” I think you risk trivializing the issues and the people involved in the boycott.

Finally I want to close by thanking MinTheGap for his thought provoking commentary.  We need good issue-driven discussions, illuminated by Scripture to sharpen us as believers.

Links to MinTheGap posts:

Boycott Mcdonald’s?

The Ultimate Boycott

MinTheGap’s comment on Kim’s post

DON’T forget the Gunn Brothers awesome documentary from which the above clip was taken


While we’re on the topic of women in civil leadership…

My good friend Colin and his brother have a collection of audio and video documentaries that look into, among other things,

a GREAT deal!

  • How Christians should and are standing against public perversion and
  • What are the effects of Feminism on our culture

These are HIGHLY recommended teaching tools for you and your family. If you dont’ have them go here and  here to watch the clips, read my previous review then go to  this link to buy the whole set for 40% off

You might even considering buying one for your pastor or church library 🙂

Puritan Family Renewal

We need a reformation of biblical family life, and there will be no reformation without setting the doctrinal foundation and having the courage for a radical turning. Come to the conference, “A Puritan Family Reformation.” This conference is designed to help us make progress in turning to a biblical vision for family life.

My good friend Scott Brown director of the NCFIC sent me an announcement this week letting me know about a new conference he is hosting in May.
Here is Scott’s description of the conference:

On May 9-10 we are having a really unusual conference for the reformation of family life. It is called, “A Puritan Family Reformation,” which seeks to document the biblical doctrine of the family as the Puritans understood it and to put it into practice in our times. It will be a very practical conference for the reforming of marriage, child raising and the relationship between the family and the church.”

God’s word tells us in Malachi 4 that Reformation is preceded by a renewal of interest by fathers in their children’s hearts. The reformers knew the importance of family worship for the spiritual health of a nation. This is why they wrote their “Directory of Family Worship” as part of the Westminster Standards.

I believe we are truly living in a generation that has arisen and does not know the Lord or the things he has done for his people, in the past, much less the ways in which our spiritual fathers sought to honor God and train their children serve him in fear.

From the conference website:

When the protestant reformation swept Europe, everything changed. The doctrine of the sufficiency of scripture, which lay at the root of the reformation, caused transformations in every area of life. Not only was there a return to the biblical doctrine of justification by faith alone, but the biblical doctrine of the family was also recovered. There was a profound reformation of family life during the protestant reformation. Then the successors of the reformers, the puritans, took the foundation that was laid and built upon it. They expanded on their predecessors’ understanding of family life. They put doctrine into practice in church and home. And, they published many powerful treatises on the biblical doctrine of the family. Family life was reforming according to scripture. But something tragic happened. Many forces rose up to wage war against the family and instead of standing on the shoulders of the puritans and building further, the next generation fell to the ground, and the biblical doctrine of the family was largely lost…

This conference seeks to change that.

Further Reading:

The “Puritan Family Reformation Conference” website is here

Here is the page containing the video.

Here is Scott Brown’s Blog.

In order to help get the word out about the conference I will be having a drawing for 3 copies of “A Church in the House” by Matthew Henry and “The Joy of Family Worship” cd by R.C. Sproul Jr. IF you blog about the conference.

Together – one of each to 3 people –  The conference starts the 9th so we’ll close entries on this drawing on the 30th of April!

Encouraging sons to be men

I have spoken highly of the Botkin family in the past. One of the many ways that they have impacted my thinking is the daughters’ dedication to encouraging their younger brothers to think and behave as young men.

The oldest boy in my family was 8 years younger than I was, and he already had 4 older sisters when he was born. The poor guy was surrounded by women of all sizes, with more to come. By the time I was married, there were 10 girls and just 2 boys.

We fawned over our brother as much as he would allow while he was very small, but he was determined to be a man-child, not a doll.

So we laughed at him instead. He was 2yo and thought he could tell us what to do. Comic relief!

When he was 4 or 5yo, he started telling us about his dreams: dreams of daring rescues and grand adventures. In his dreams, he saved us girls from dragons and bad guys and fires and a multitude of other dangers. Like Joseph’s brothers, we laughed at his illusions of grandeur. As if we would need aid from a 5yo, even in his dream world!

He carried on nonetheless, determined to be a man in the face of our cackling and ridicule. He grew into a fine young man, and now has a wife and 3 children. He often helps me and the children when Hubby is unavailable. I don’t laugh now at his offers of help. Instead, he laughs at me for struggling with a flat tire when I could have just called him.

But I have gained a little wisdom over the years, and I regret all the times I mocked him for trying to be a man when he was little. I realized this acutely while listening to and talking with Anna Sophia and Elizabeth, and my husband and I are making a self-conscious effort to do things differently.att00164.jpg

Our boy is being encouraged right from the start to act as a young man. At 17mos, he opens doors for his sisters (even though they can do it more quickly and easily for themselves), he squishes scary bugs for them with his manly little boots, he carries “heavy” items for me (like his diaper bag), and helps with other chores. He is learning that he is never, ever to hit a girl, even if she is twice his size and 4 times his age, and makes him mad or hits him first.

As a future patriarch (cough, cough) he is learning more than how to boss his wife around. He is learning to be strong and courageous, to take care of the women in his family, to love them and give himself in service for them. He doesn’t have a wife yet, but he can certainly practice much of this on his sisters and mother, developing habits of protection, provision and nurturing that will later aid him as a husband, father and head of household.

His sisters are also learning from my own mistakes with my brother. They have heard me repent of how I treated him, and they think differently than I did at their age. They delight to see their little brother act like a man, and they do everything they can to encourage him in his role.

We’re new parents all over again when it comes to raising a son, but by God’s grace we can glean wisdom from Scripture, friends and family, and our own past mistakes.

Censorship, Stewardship and the 9th commandment

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We are quite vocal and unapologetic in our support of Vision Forum in our family. Kim has, at my direction, over the course of the last year posted on issues relevant to the patriarchy versus feminism debate and even links to relevant documents as Vision Forum and others have made them available.

After Kim’s recent post on patriarchy, and again on Doug Phillips article on gossip we attracted a little attention from patriarchy’s detractors that led to my having her turn on comment moderation. Over the last month or so Kim and I have had many discussions about our editorial policy, censoring comments and how to apply a biblical ethic to blog writing and to comment moderation. Yesterday I came across this short but brilliant explanation by Tim Bayly that puts the matter ever so much better than I could.

Here are some relevant quotes from the comment (I encourage everyone to read the article and the comments when you have time )

“… I’ve explained it often enough, but once more for the record: when men attack the word of God on this blog, directly contradicting the Holy Spirit , my choices are limited….
I can remove their attack and lies from our blog. …And that is not censorship, but faithful guarding of the good deposit which has been passed on to us.
This blog is not now, nor has it ever been, a forum for the free exchange of ideas. It’s an extension of the ministry of two pastors who are brothers and who have vowed to honor the Word of God. We have no obligation to provide a forum for heretics and rebels against God who seek to devour souls by feeding those souls lies. In fact, we have an obligation given us by the Holy Spirit to silence such men.
On the other hand, egalitarian feminists (Perry’s note: I would add to this list slanderers, and those who believe excommunicants over God’s people and elders) directly oppose God our Father, and His Word. Constantly, they twist Scripture making it say the very opposite of its plain meaning; and constantly they lead God’s little ones astray. Many think they should be allowed to do so because not allowing it will produce the fruit of women like you accusing them of censorship. Or because not allowing it will cause them to appear to be lacking in the collegiality deportment…Other times, we’ve removed comments–almost always for lying and almost never for disagreement with us. Sure, people may see removal for lying as removal for disagreement, but honest souls will know the truth.”

You see, if you own a blog or a website you will not only stand before God for the things you write, but you are also accountable for what you allow others to write and publish on your site. The Baylys understand this very well and as our family has come to understand it I have tightened our editorial control over our site. This is why, in part, we will be moving our blog to wordpress soon. -keep an eye out for the announcement- WordPress give us the ability to not only approve or reject comments like blogger but also to edit the content of them as we see fit. This way we might be able to interact with critics of our views, Vision Forum, Doug Phillips, the Botkin family or Patriarchy in context without letting them devour souls by feeding their lies to God’s children.

(parenthetical note: I owe the Baylys a giant hat tip for helping me to clarify my thinking and the terminology surrounding the blog trolls who are slandering my friends and the teachers of biblical family roles.)

This brings me to my final point, which is the reason we link to and promote those pieces of information, articles, and evidences as they become available. We have a duty to protect the good name of our neighbors. That extends a fair bit beyond not allowing slander but lay burdens upon us to promote and protect the good name of our neighbors insofar as we have the power to.

Question 144 of the Westminster Larger Catechism is helpful here:

Question 144: What are the duties required in the ninth commandment?

Answer: The duties required in the ninth commandment are, the preserving and promoting of truth between man and man, and the good name of our neighbor, as well as our own; appearing and standing for the truth; and from the heart, sincerely, freely, clearly, and fully, speaking the truth, and only the truth, in matters of judgment and justice, and in all other things: Whatsoever; a charitable esteem of our neighbors; loving, desiring, and rejoicing in their good name; sorrowing for, and covering of their infirmities; freely acknowledging of their gifts and graces, defending their innocency; a ready receiving of a good report, and unwillingness to admit of an evil report, concerning them; discouraging talebearers, flatterers, and slanderers; love and care of our own good name, and defending it when need requires; keeping of lawful promises; studying and practicing of: Whatsoever things are true, honest, lovely, and of good report.

In light of the above we actively promote and spread the antidote to the lies, slander, and mischaracterization whenever we can. One of the apparent strategies of the blog trolls in question has been to create a series of links and websites that will rise in the search engine rankings so that whenever an innocent gets wind of the rumors and googles Vision Forum or someone attached to them they are fairly certain to see the lies. This is why they put up several sites each, this is why they link proficiently to one another, and this is why they delight in using the names of people or repetitiously in their writing. The ONLY way I know to combat these vicious attempts to destroy innocent names is to link to the truth.

It’s really that simple. Just link to God-honoring commentary, letters and proofs that help to protect the good name of the people I love and repect. The 9th commandment requires it of me and it requires it of you.

In closing I will leave you with a number of links I think are relevent to current issues surrounding accusations against Doug Phillips, Brian Abshire, Patriarchy and the Biblical family.

I hope you will take time to read them and link to them to help in “the preserving and promoting of truth between man and man” and “ standing for the truth; and from the heart, sincerely, freely, clearly, and fully” while “discouraging talebearers” and defending the innocent.

Perry C


Vision Forum Responds to Don Veinot

Part one

Part two (NEW)

Brian Abshire’s gracious response to Don Veinot

Round 1

Round 2

Vision Forum Responds to the Epsteins and their coloaboraters

Doug Phillips teaches on high tech dishonor

Vision Forum article on Tale Bearing by Alexander Strauch

Vision Forum Ministries article on De-feminizing your family

Doug Phillips and Voddie Baucham cook up some “sacred cows”

Doug Phillips and Geoff Botkin teach us about using the “C” word

Doug Phillips writes about tearing down strawmen

More links and commentary: